serious problem

[Killer]

.... was changing spark plugs.... couple were stuck.. my room mate was helping me... and one broke... the threads are left in the damn head.. and the rest of the plug is out...

is there anything i can do to get it out without disassembling the head?

i don't have the money to take it to a shop.. i don't get paid for eight more days.. and even if i could i can't crank the damn car.. so i'll have to get it towed at that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


there is just a hole left with the threads in it... the plug is actually stripped from the thread.. not just broken.

[Krappy]

damn that sucks man.... sorry im no help...hope u get it fixed....

[jmmx258]

Its gonna make a mess in ur plug hole, but put some silicone in ur socket, and try that.

Or, find yourself some kind of lag bolt or screw. a magnet to hold it from falling, and get it to catch threads in whats left of the plug. Get the plug loose and spin it out, then get yourself some long dicked needle noses and reach in and grab the screw you just threaded into the plug.


First, try a peice of electrical tape. Put it across the end of the socket, and jam it down on the plug.

[Killer]

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b132/kvb1085/sparkplugs.jpg

this is what i've got..

left is bad one that the thread is broken off of.. the right is what it should look like...

[§treet_§peed]

damn bro sorry to hear.. man you have as much bad luck as me...

[Krazykouki]

looks like a simple bolt extractor should work...but you will have to get an extension shaft to fit down the head to get to the plug...

[jmmx258]

looks like a simple bolt extractor should work...but you will have to get an extension shaft to fit down the head to get to the plug...

Agreed.

I thought You meant just the porcelian broke off of the top. My bad. Good luck man.

[2.0civic]

holy shit that sucks

[speedminded]

looks like a simple bolt extractor should work...but you will have to get an extension shaft to fit down the head to get to the plug...Something like this if you can find one big enough...

http://www.aldn.com/drillout/
http://www.aldn.com/images/drillout_pro.jpg

...but it might be kinda hard to keep it centered while trying to drill into the remaining spark plug threads.


There should be a cone shaped tool that you can drop in the hole and lighly hammer it in to bite then turn counter clockwise...maybe something like a router bit? The only problem will be trying to grasp the shaft (that's what she said :tongue: ) bc i'm pretty sure they are all rounded vs. being hex shaped.

[Killer]

well, i found out i've got a blown headgasket anyway... so i'm gonna take the head off and replace the gasket.. and still get an ez out to take the spark plug aids out...


is there anything tricky about taking the head off that i should know? timing belt problems??? anything... or does anyone have a guide i could check out? would a haynes manual do me any good?


do gasket sets come with intake mani gaskets?

i'm so in over my head with this crap.. and i don't want to put any money into fixing this considering i was gonna do a swap...

oh and any good places to get my head machined?

[speedminded]

well, i found out i've got a blown headgasket anyway... so i'm gonna take the head off and replace the gasket.. and still get an ez out to take the spark plug aids out...


is there anything tricky about taking the head off that i should know? timing belt problems??? anything... or does anyone have a guide i could check out? would a haynes manual do me any good?


do gasket sets come with intake mani gaskets?

i'm so in over my head with this crap.. and i don't want to put any money into fixing this considering i was gonna do a swap...

oh and any good places to get my head machined?With an LS you always want a spare sitting on an engine stand...build it up and play with it in your spare time then when the other one goes you're all ready to swap. Maybe your car's paying you back for talking about putting in an automatic ;)

[Killer]

With an LS you always want a spare sitting on an engine stand...build it up and play with it in your spare time then when the other one goes you're all ready to swap. Maybe your car's paying you back for talking about putting in an automatic ;)

lol! i don't have a garage to place it in regardless if i had the engine....

i'm the worst googl"er" ever.. i can't find anything on there to ever help me with engine crap...

[speedminded]

lol! i don't have a garage to place it in regardless if i had the engine....

i'm the worst googl"er" ever.. i can't find anything on there to ever help me with engine crap...www.honda-tech.com, good luck with the search function though :tongue:

[drmcivicsi]

its easy just make sure u have air tools and a impact gun with about 500-700 ft lbs is nice to have =) to get that crank bolt out

[twinj]

I have a extra LS(b18b1) Long BLOCK you could use. the piston 1&3 are bad everything else is good. I need this thing gone asap $150 you can take the whole thing. I don't give damn what you do with it. If you just need the head then take the head and sell the block.

[Killer]

its easy just make sure u have air tools and a impact gun with about 500-700 ft lbs is nice to have =) to get that crank bolt out


i dont have those tools available...

[jmmx258]

If you need a hand, i'm right in kennesaw. What motor is in your car? I'm more than happy to lend a hand. Get me outta the house, and help a fella out. You just need the basic tools more or less, and a torque wrench

[Killer]

i'm gonna buy the parts tonight (gasket set, things such as that) i don't have a torque wrench though... i may hit u up tomorrow.. weather permitting... what sucks is i work from 9-6 so...... i'm thinking if i bust my a i can get it done in a couple days.

[jmmx258]

If its just a head gasket, and the spark plug It could be done in a matter of hours I have a torque wrench, and I have a precision square i can use to make sure the heads flat still.

[Killer]

bad.. i'll pm u tomorrow... i'm in sandy springs.. not too far from k-town... i work from nine to six, but my boss is gone so hit me up... i've gotten pretty much everything off but the head and intake mani... anyone know any tricks to getting the intake mani off... i took nine nuts of nine bolts and can't find anymore... thing won't efing budge...

[Turbodude06]

bad.. i'll pm u tomorrow... i'm in sandy springs.. not too far from k-town... i work from nine to six, but my boss is gone so hit me up... i've gotten pretty much everything off but the head and intake mani... anyone know any tricks to getting the intake mani off... i took nine nuts of nine bolts and can't find anymore... thing won't efing budge...

LOL mine was a bitch to get off too, mine had like a motor mount looking thing conected to the bottom of the intake manifold and I had to get under the car to get to it try looking for something like that...

[Killer]

thanks man, i'll check it out.. see what i can find... gotta go get my jack and stands for that though...

[jmmx258]

Get the car up in the air. There's a bracket that goes from the mani, to the block. like 4 12mm headed bolts.

I found it easier to take the mani on and off while the heads off the car.

[slow_hatch]

Get the car up in the air. There's a bracket that goes from the mani, to the block. like 4 12mm headed bolts.

I found it easier to take the mani on and off while the heads off the car.

Yes, leave the manifold on the head till the head is off, this is alot easier. There is one bolt under the manifold thats attaches it to a bracket on the motor, just remove it and then take the head off :goodjob:

[Killer]

ah.. cool... thanks guys! i'm gonna be grabbing all the gaskets in the morning along with my stands.. and working on the car when i have a chance tomorrow..

jmmx ur help would be awesome if u can.. i'll let u know something tomorrow! thanks again guys...

[jmmx258]

Alright. Shoot me a PM man. I had a job interview today, i think it went VERY well so. Now i'll just be hoping I get this one all day tmorrow haha. Lemme know dude

[Killer]

i've basically hit a dead end... how do u get the timing belt off? or the cams? i feel like i've stripped my engine of every bolt it has yet nothing is moving! lol...

thanks to all for all the help.. and reps to who i can!

[2.0civic]

timing belt has a tensioner..loosen it and pull the belt off

[2.0civic]

plus theres no reason yet to take cams out anyway if all your doing is a headgasket

[Killer]

timing belt has a tensioner..loosen it and pull the belt off



where's that at? can u throw up a pic or a guide.... i didn't think u had to take them off, but i couldn't find another way to get the belt off....


thanks u prolly just saved me a lot of tedious nut screwing...... (in a mechanical term.. and no other that is)

[SLow_POke]

liek he said lossen the T or honestly wait for some one to give you a hand if you cant take to a shop.

but if you insist on DIY, buy the manual. and dont warpt he head when your taking it off. carefull on setting the timing belt when your all done .(might as well replace it )

and BUY the manual.:goodjob:

[SLow_POke]

http://www.hondatuningmagazine.com/tech/0406ht_1999_honda_civic_dx_hatchback_timing_belt/

:goodjob: hsould help you out IF IT DOESNT DO NOT! CONTINUE and go to a shop

[Killer]

i can't take the car to a shop... the timing belt is practically brand new. no need for another one...

but thanks!

[RB25DET240sx]

Or you can just take the all the bolts that hold the head down out then turn the head up on the back end and slide the belt off and replace head gasket then do reverse to put it all back together. thats what i did when i replaced my piston rings.

[Killer]

which bolts take the head off, i've got some help on the way so...


can u replace the rings by just taking the head off? if so i'm gonna do those too.

[drmcivicsi]

damn dude not to hate but u dont know shit about cars lol

did u get the crank pully off yet ?

if so then take off the cover and tensioner well be right there

[drmcivicsi]

oh and if u dont know how to take the head off i wouldnt try to replace your rings

[Killer]

damn dude not to hate but u dont know shit about cars lol

did u get the crank pully off yet ?

if so then take off the cover and tensioner well be right there


correct... i don't know much about them... this is my first project/import...


everything else has just been a dd.. put gas in change the oil sometimes and drive.. thats it.. there was nothing else i needed to learn...


jmmx258 came down and helped me with most of it.. awesome guy... just can't get the damn plug out of the head...


IF ANYONE HAS A B18A1 HEAD LET ME KNOW!!!!! i've got the internals so i don't need them.... but if u have them it's a plus... i don't have a car so delivery is preferred... shoot me a pm or call me at 706-455-8270

[ranj]

damn dude that sux,
but glad to see you're keepin the hatch.

[ranj]

oh and if you get the manual for ls motor, u can pretty much do all the things u need to do urself, including the ring replacement. good luck.

[jmmx258]

Yeah, I have a set of Allen sockets. the EZ out has a 3/8" head on it So I put my 10mm allen socket on it backwards, then with a 6pt 10mm socket on a half inch Ratchet, I twisted the allen wrench side. The plug didnt budge!!

Its fuckin crazy!! I've never dealt with a plug so tight. We tried heating it up too!! Plus that freeze spray shit on the plug its self should've contracted the plug enough in the heated aluminum to come out. Still nothing. Might have to be drilled and helicoiled, or drilled, welded machined, and re tapped.

[Killer]

Yeah, I have a set of Allen sockets. the EZ out has a 3/8" head on it So I put my 10mm allen socket on it backwards, then with a 6pt 10mm socket on a half inch Ratchet, I twisted the allen wrench side. The plug didnt budge!!

Its fuckin crazy!! I've never dealt with a plug so tight. We tried heating it up too!! Plus that freeze spray shit on the plug its self should've contracted the plug enough in the heated aluminum to come out. Still nothing. Might have to be drilled and helicoiled, or drilled, welded machined, and re tapped.

THE HELL IT DOES!!! i got a new head this morning.... getting ready to start work again!

[Killer]

ah, joey... ranj is the one i was talking about yesterday.. i knew i had the wrong name...

look up his general tech thread about ur fast idle thermo valve!

[jmmx258]

Haha Hell yah dude. You want help puttin it on again? lol

[Killer]

if ur free i sure wouldn't mind the help!

i think i'm gonna use my cams on it.. mine look better..

[Sol-Badguy]

Good luck with it!

[Killer]

thanks man.. i'll prolly piss my panties when it's running again!!!!! lol...

[jmmx258]

thanks man.. i'll prolly piss my panties when it's running again!!!!! lol...

I dont think I woulda said panties haha!! O'well Off to autozone Good luck. If i get my shit straightened out i'll come down and lend a hand

[Killer]

how did everything work for u???? i'm like minutes from being done.. i just gotta figure out my distributer and the wires.... I NEED SOME HELP PEOPLE!

[Killer]

the car won't crank! not even turn over at all...


something electrical is keeping it from cranking...

do either of the wires that connect to the throttle body and the idle air control valve keep it from starting?

and i need a crips clear picture of the distributor.. i need to know which plug wires go where...