Sony takes a shot at the Wii

[OneSlow5pt0]

"In the past, Sony Computer Entertainment America spokesman Dave Karraker has been fairly critical of his gaming rivals at Microsoft. In September, Karraker called Microsoft's decision to release an HD DVD add-on for the Xbox 360 that only plays movies "unfortunate," adding that the company's 1080p update for the system wasn't "full HD."

Two months later, he slammed Microsoft's decision to offer high-definition movies and TV shows for download over Xbox Live as "a disservice to their consumer base" because purchasers of the Xbox 360 Core system would need to buy a hard drive to store the large files.

Now, Karraker has turned his eye toward Nintendo's Wii, telling The New York Times (http://tinyurl.com/yv7vkm) that the system didn't belong in the same category as the PlayStation 3.

"Wii could be considered an impulse buy more than anything else," Karraker was quoted as saying.

The Sony spokesman also told the paper that Sony was selling out shipments of 100,000 PS3s in the US every week, although, "the frenzy we saw at the holidays has subsided a bit."

The article ran today under the headline, "Nintendo's Wii, Radiating Fun, Is Eclipsing Sony Machine." It discussed each machine's relative performance over the recent holiday sales season and noted that PS3 systems have been easier to find on store shelves than the Wii. " Gamespot.com

[Killer]

i'd rather have a wii than a ps3... any day...

[OneSlow5pt0]

i think sony is just mad cause they are the worst console now,lol

[osiriskidd]

wii > ps3.

[Nismo]

Ps3 = teh suck

[josh green]

releasing a badass console with no games is always a bad move. Unless you like madden ps3 is shit. When Gran Turismo comes out for it I may buy one but until then I will continue to play my Wii with FREE sports game. I didnt even know what a Wii was until my buddy got one for x-mas.
I didnt know anyone was comparing the Wii to the other systems, its not that baddest assed graphics and shit, but who cares. I dont have a badass 1080p tv and HD cables and all that shit so my stuff wont support the ps3's capabilities.

[4dmin]

360>wii>ps3

[OneSlow5pt0]

360>wii>ps3

i 100% agree,when the 360 doesnt break on my ass,lol...now ill try the wii system out now.

[ksinao]

360>wii>ps3

good call

[Nittanys1]

360>wii>ps3


totally agree!!! After playing the 360 yesterday I wish I got the 360 instead of the Wii....maybe I'll get both. :thinking:

[Vteckidd]

the 360 is the BEST SYSTEM out right now, its got games, support, XBOX live, etc.
PS3, they were too cocky, they released a system with NO GAMES and without a $3000 1080P TV , youll never see the full advantage of the PS3.

In 2 years , when those $3000 TVs are $899, then we will All be singing a different tune. But by then maybe the XBOX 780 will be out. who knows.

the Wii is doing so well because like josh said, it isnt about the craziest graphics and fastest processor, its about a $249 system, with good GAMES, it gets back to the route of video gaming which is having fun.

Even on XBOX there are games that are all about graphics but a weak storyline, short game play, etc.

The Wii seems to say "hey we know we arent the best, but we think you can still have fun with us, give us a try " and its working.

PS3, it will be the best system, but i just dont think the market was ready for a $600 system, that requires a baddass TV, and $70 video games.

when metal gear solid 4 comes out, i will pick one up for sure the same day, but until then, ill go play my xbox 360

[OneSlow5pt0]

i belive once the Wii online takes off,its going to sell even better...god i hope metroid prime 3 is online

[Hulud]

werd

[bigdare23]

the 360 is the BEST SYSTEM out right now, its got games, support, XBOX live, etc.
PS3, they were too cocky, they released a system with NO GAMES and without a $3000 1080P TV , youll never see the full advantage of the PS3.

In 2 years , when those $3000 TVs are $899, then we will All be singing a different tune. But by then maybe the XBOX 780 will be out. who knows.

the Wii is doing so well because like josh said, it isnt about the craziest graphics and fastest processor, its about a $249 system, with good GAMES, it gets back to the route of video gaming which is having fun.

Even on XBOX there are games that are all about graphics but a weak storyline, short game play, etc.

The Wii seems to say "hey we know we arent the best, but we think you can still have fun with us, give us a try " and its working.

PS3, it will be the best system, but i just dont think the market was ready for a $600 system, that requires a baddass TV, and $70 video games.

when metal gear solid 4 comes out, i will pick one up for sure the same day, but until then, ill go play my xbox 360


Xbox 360 + Xbox 360 = Xbox 780 :thinking: something doesnt add up LOL

[Hulud]

Xbox 360 + Xbox 360 = Xbox 780 :thinking: something doesnt add up LOL
shhh dont upset THE MIKE


lol

[Vteckidd]

720, i suck at math

[bigdare23]

720, i suck at math

LOL, its okay. I'm gonna let you slide cuz you have a 2jz

[Hulud]

fuck the 720 they will skip that Gen and make teh Xbox 1080!!!!!!!!

first game to be released

[OneSlow5pt0]

id buy that for a dollar

[Hulud]

id buy that for a dollar
too bad for you their msrp is gonna be $2.53

[bigdare23]

fuck the 720 they will skip that Gen and make teh Xbox 1080!!!!!!!!

first game to be released

LOL

[kittychick]

totally agree!!! After playing the 360 yesterday I wish I got the 360 instead of the Wii....maybe I'll get both. :thinking:
hey nut case... are you going to install a 4th TV to the currently 3 multi screens to play on?
you ~>:crazy:

:D

[Mr_Mischif]

fuck the 720 they will skip that Gen and make teh Xbox 1080!!!!!!!!

first game to be released

LOL that game was the shit though!

[Ran]

i think sony is just mad cause they are the worst console now,lolNow? Hell, the PS3 had the worst console launch of any major gaming system ever.

Rediculous Price + No Launch Titles = Bad Business

[Sol-Badguy]

"Wii could be considered an impulse buy more than anything else," Karraker was quoted as saying.
Those Sony guys must have a lot of extra money for a $250 console to be an impulse buy.

Right now, I'm played all 3 at some point. I think the Wii has the biggest fun factor; but Gears of War is so damn fun.

[ShooterMcGavin]

the 360 is the BEST SYSTEM out right now, its got games, support, XBOX live, etc.
PS3, they were too cocky, they released a system with NO GAMES and without a $3000 1080P TV , youll never see the full advantage of the PS3.

In 2 years , when those $3000 TVs are $899, then we will All be singing a different tune. But by then maybe the XBOX 780 will be out. who knows.
sorry buddy, fact is that 1080p tvs (nice ass ones no less) are going for WELL under $2000 so the only place where sony really shot themselves thus far is the no games part. not to mention if tvs were a factor, xbox 360 owners would also suffer if they didn't have a top notch tv to play their games on :goodjob:

[Sport1.3]

sorry buddy, fact is that 1080p tvs (nice ass ones no less) are going for WELL under $2000 so the only place where sony really shot themselves thus far is the no games part. not to mention if tvs were a factor, xbox 360 owners would also suffer if they didn't have a top notch tv to play their games on :goodjob:


I play mine on a TV that when it came out A/V connections were brand new lolololol....and it works just fine with my 360

[ShooterMcGavin]

didn't say it wouldn't WORK fine, just saying ur not gettin the most out of it...

[incomplete lude]

PS3 FTMFL...

Look at all their "exclusives", All they've got left are Gran Turismo, Devil May Cry, and Metal Gear.

The last two of which there are MANY MANY rumors going around they may not be exclusive this go around.

[Slowboy]

1080 was the shit on n64, i believe or was is ps2, pretty sure it was n64, either way fun game.

360>wii>ps3, plain and simlpe and i have not played the wii yet i would like to though.

[ShooterMcGavin]

PS3 FTMFL...

Look at all their "exclusives", All they've got left are Gran Turismo, Devil May Cry, and Metal Gear.

The last two of which there are MANY MANY rumors going around they may not be exclusive this go around.
they still have exclusives on the final fantasy line of games.

[Sol-Badguy]

they still have exclusives on the final fantasy line of games.
Crystal Chronicles?

Nintendo still has some of them. They've been releasing them left and right on the GBA and DS.

Besides, the new FF games IMO suck hard.

[Ltdnismorace]

360 has gears of war which will be a dynasty and always the Halo chronicles will never be overtaken.

[Sport1.3]

didn't say it wouldn't WORK fine, just saying ur not gettin the most out of it...

i was agreeing with you :doh:

[josh green]

I watched something on G4 about Japanese gaming vs. American gaming. It was crazy, they looked around for a whole day trying to find a place that supported the american system and games. Its nuts, in japan they still play the ps2 like its a 360 to us americans. I myself like halo, but thats about the only game I play for x box. I hear gears of war is sweet but I havent played it. The only thing I play for PS2 is Gran turismo and tony hawk. I'm just not really a fan of the x box controllers.

[ShooterMcGavin]

Crystal Chronicles?

Nintendo still has some of them. They've been releasing them left and right on the GBA and DS.

Besides, the new FF games IMO suck hard.
no u misunderstand, sony still has the exclusives to the ACTUAL final fantasy line of games (u know, the ones that go 1,2,3,234324, etc). spinoffs do not count. and just cuz u don't like them doesn't mean there isn't a huge demand for them :yes:

[ShooterMcGavin]

I watched something on G4 about Japanese gaming vs. American gaming. It was crazy, they looked around for a whole day trying to find a place that supported the american system and games. Its nuts, in japan they still play the ps2 like its a 360 to us americans. I myself like halo, but thats about the only game I play for x box. I hear gears of war is sweet but I havent played it. The only thing I play for PS2 is Gran turismo and tony hawk. I'm just not really a fan of the x box controllers.
haha, i hated the xbox controllers too, even the smaller ones they made and it was mainly due to the fact that it still lacked the 4 shoulder buttons i was used to w/the ps2. however, the 360 controller takes care of that problem :goodjob:

[Vteckidd]

cheapest i have seen a 1080P TV at best buy is $2699 for a GOOD brand

[Vteckidd]

im talking big screen too

[Sol-Badguy]

no u misunderstand, sony still has the exclusives to the ACTUAL final fantasy line of games (u know, the ones that go 1,2,3,234324, etc). spinoffs do not count. and just cuz u don't like them doesn't mean there isn't a huge demand for them
Oh I know there's still a huge demand for them, I just haven't really liked them lately. Once they brought in the sphere grid in FFX, I knew it was going downhill.

The battle system in XII is more like an MMO, and I'm sure some people like it, but I didn't.

[ShooterMcGavin]

im talking big screen too
i'm talkin about 40-46" sony bravia lcd's (obviously w/1080p) going for oh about $1500-$1600. i mean sure u can always say u were talkin bigger screens than those but we both know screen sizes will always be made bigger.

[Vteckidd]

i'm talkin about 40-46" sony bravia lcd's (obviously w/1080p) going for oh about $1500-$1600. i mean sure u can always say u were talkin bigger screens than those but we both know screen sizes will always be made bigger.
maybe im not looking in the right places, or maybe inm looking at 50in + :yes:

[ShooterMcGavin]

seriously though, the $1500 range has become the standard for lcds just under 50in and dlp projection in the 50in+ category, but like u said, just got to know where to look ;) :goodjob:

[chrisdavis]

LOL sony is just pissed at nintendo over the holiday sales

Nintendo sold 4 million units at a profit. Sony sold 1.6 million units at a loss :lmao:


http://www.vgcharts.org/?dg=1

[SPOOLIN]

maybe im not looking in the right places, or maybe inm looking at 50in + :yes:

mike, define a good brand. 42-46" lcd 1080 can be found under 2000 easily. My 42" plasma plays all this shit just as well and its only 720p. I watch movies more than anything, i wanted a really bright screen with huge contrast. Plasma it was. I love my Wii, we bought one the other day, raving rabbids is hard as shit when you start trying to shut those god damn outhouse doors.

[ShooterMcGavin]

mike, define a good brand. 42-46" lcd 1080 can be found under 2000 easily. My 42" plasma plays all this shit just as well and its only 720p. I watch movies more than anything, i wanted a really bright screen with huge contrast. Plasma it was. I love my Wii, we bought one the other day, raving rabbids is hard as shit when you start trying to shut those god damn outhouse doors.
lol repost! :D

[SPOOLIN]

pwnderded

[ShooterMcGavin]

lolol, reps

[bigdare23]

Damn ya r ball'n, I'm stilling playing 360 on my 9in black and white TV. I had to unhook my damn betamax to play it!

[ShooterMcGavin]

bwahahaha, what a joker

[SPOOLIN]

Damn ya r ball'n, I'm stilling playing 360 on my 9in black and white TV. I had to unhook my damn betamax to play it!

damn im almost to the point where ill forget what a betamax is. You cant be serious about playing a 360 on that!!! You might as well just play NES!!!

[ShooterMcGavin]

or the atari 2600 :yes:

[OneSlow5pt0]

well im playing a 30 inch nonHD,and everything looks great on it too,lol..360 in HD does look great though

[ARH1192]

I gotta 32in LCD that plays up to 1080i.. looks good if u ask me.. paid right 900 out the door

[bigdare23]

damn im almost to the point where ill forget what a betamax is. You cant be serious about playing a 360 on that!!! You might as well just play NES!!!

:lmfao:

[StupidBikerBoy]

maybe im not looking in the right places, or maybe inm looking at 50in + :yes:

My 55 in was $1200 new with a 5 year warranty 2 years ago. It plays in 1080 also.

Brandsmart FTW

[dartingd]

i belive once the Wii online takes off,its going to sell even better...god i hope metroid prime 3 is online

dunno if anyone said so yet, but metroid will NOT be the first online game...the two first ones are super smash bros. brawl and batallion wars 2 if the things posted by mods on the nintendo insiders forums are correct...i have the wii, and have played the ps3 and 360...when the next gen wii games are released we'll see how potent it really is...as for the 360, it had bad release titles if i remember right, but now is a powerhouse...my neighbor has a ps3 and i've played resistance, which was eye-candy and fun, but not that great, flatout 2, which sucks, and gran turismo hd which was gt3 w/ more eye candy, lol...it's coo, but no thanks....an article i read today on my wii news channel showed that the ps3 price will more than likely be dropping soon due to i think it was a 1.6 billion US dollar loss this quarter...360 and wii are really punching sony in their ribs!

[OneSlow5pt0]

dunno if anyone said so yet, but metroid will NOT be the first online game...the two first ones are super smash bros. brawl and batallion wars 2 if the things posted by mods on the nintendo insiders forums are correct...i have the wii, and have played the ps3 and 360...when the next gen wii games are released we'll see how potent it really is...as for the 360, it had bad release titles if i remember right, but now is a powerhouse...my neighbor has a ps3 and i've played resistance, which was eye-candy and fun, but not that great, flatout 2, which sucks, and gran turismo hd which was gt3 w/ more eye candy, lol...it's coo, but no thanks....an article i read today on my wii news channel showed that the ps3 price will more than likely be dropping soon due to i think it was a 1.6 billion US dollar loss this quarter...360 and wii are really punching sony in their ribs!


the new Poke mon stadium will be the first,but MP3 isnt due out till the fall,so i hope they make it online,it looks like the best controling shooter yet for the Wii

[Nismo]

Dude pokemon FTW!

[Infinite]

dont forget sony banned porn on the bluray format... so sony (pardon the pun) fucked themselves with that move

[dartingd]

the new Poke mon stadium will be the first,but MP3 isnt due out till the fall,so i hope they make it online,it looks like the best controling shooter yet for the Wii

from everything i've seen, pokemon online has been released in japan, but there were issues that will prevent it from being released before ssbb and batallion...we'll see...i don't care what's first, i just want online gaming! btw...anyone get on the news channel yet?

[incomplete lude]

no u misunderstand, sony still has the exclusives to the ACTUAL final fantasy line of games (u know, the ones that go 1,2,3,234324, etc). spinoffs do not count. and just cuz u don't like them doesn't mean there isn't a huge demand for them :yes:

360 has FFXI, that is a "ACTUAL Final Fantasy game".

Plus, there are talks of them jumping ship to the 360 also.

P.s. Resident Evil 5 is confirmed 360 :)

[OneSlow5pt0]

and a RE for the wii is due out in the fall.

[CompEngineer]

releasing a badass console with no games is always a bad move. Unless you like madden ps3 is shit. When Gran Turismo comes out for it I may buy one but until then I will continue to play my Wii with FREE sports game. I didnt even know what a Wii was until my buddy got one for x-mas.
I didnt know anyone was comparing the Wii to the other systems, its not that baddest assed graphics and shit, but who cares. I dont have a badass 1080p tv and HD cables and all that shit so my stuff wont support the ps3's capabilities.

My thoughts as well. All the games that Sony released just didn't seem fun. I go to a local gaming place where they had a PS3 and Resistance for it as well. I was pleased with the gameplay and with the graphics and all. But, until Logitech makes another wheel, for the PS3 this time, and either the next Gran Turismo or the next Soul Caliber comes out...Ill be old school and stick with my PS2.

[Nismo]

http://www.importatlanta.com/upload/files/37/42_post6as_1.gif

[ShooterMcGavin]

360 has FFXI, that is a "ACTUAL Final Fantasy game".

Plus, there are talks of them jumping ship to the 360 also.

P.s. Resident Evil 5 is confirmed 360 :)
yeah but 11 wasn't a normal FF game in the sense that it was a multiplayer based game, not ur traditional (and more linear) ff story.

[dartingd]

remember that when resident evil four came out exclusively for the cube, it was hailed as one of the best graphically looking games ever....i imagine capcom will max out the wii's potential as well....

[StupidBikerBoy]

dont forget sony banned porn on the bluray format... so sony (pardon the pun) fucked themselves with that move

LOL

Never bought a porn DVD before. I doubt banning porn will make much of a difference. Especially when you can get in on the net free.:lmfao:

[StupidBikerBoy]

Of course the PS3 is suffering now, but even in its suffering it still sold almost double the 360 when it was launched.

The 360 sold approx. 600,000 units in its first six weeks. It also had the crappy game launch issues, and we all remember all the problems they were having with the consoles.

The PS3 sold 1 mil in its first 6 weeks. It hasn't had anywhere near the problems the 360 had (and some are still having). The only thing holding it back are the games.

The Wii is going to sell regardless due to the bargain. Kind of like an economy car. They sell a lot because its cheap transportation. Case in point, civics. Not bashing the Wii, its a great system for the money, but it doesn't compare in performance.

Its to early to be saying which system will win, give it a year. And all this time PS2 games still out sell all others.:lmfao:

[SPOOLIN]

any tech nerds on here have a real evaluation on the graphics drivers and processing power between these 3 consoles?

[dartingd]

if you mean the evaluation by what they look like when gaming on each, here's my opinion:

360-very crisp graphics that seem to respond well to controls (no choppyness) like the ps3 they basically kept the same controller setup in a way and the games that have been made for it so far are amazing
ps3-amazing graphics like the 360, but probably a bit more of an edge by way of that, but i'm not sure because i haven't played the newer 360 titles..the games out for it right now suck!
wii-potential, but obviously not as strong as the other two systems..i believe the number i've seen is that the wii is 2.5 to 3 times stronger than the cube, which means theres still potential for some amazing eye candy on the wii..the only problem is that everyone wanted the first games to have "control" and threw graphics to the wayside...i own the wii and have red steel, farcry, and zelda...zelda is the only of the three with very good graphics...zelda is also a ton of fun and the control is amazing..i've played dbz budokai tenkaichi 2 as well and the graphics/gameplay for that game are amazing for a release title...

opinion..for graphics/games go to the 360
fun/gameplay/games go to the wii
to show off to friends with something you spent to much on..you guess

[SPOOLIN]

yeah ive seen a ton of those comparisons, i meant hardware wise. and....i havnt tried yet but does the wii play dvdz? not that i care.

[Nittanys1]

nope....it didnt play a burnt cd either...

[SPOOLIN]

so is there a way to play your own music during wii sports?

[Nittanys1]

i dunno havent tried...mybe you can play it off the SD card

[DemonEyez]

My 55 in was $1200 new with a 5 year warranty 2 years ago. It plays in 1080 also.

Brandsmart FTW

ur tv supports 1080i but its not 1080 resolution

also the sony 50" 1080p sxrd was 1400 a few weeks back.. and the lcos technology is a ton better than any dlp 1080p set out there.. so your definitely not looking in the right places.

[Julio]

damn.. gaming is some serious shit. I just cant get into all that crap..

I got a ps2 with like 20 games? How much can I sale it for ? 1 memory card, 2 controlers and like 20 games.

[OneSlow5pt0]

bout $150,depending on games

[dartingd]

so is there a way to play your own music during wii sports?

dunno about that, but we've played music during excitetruck, which is a very good game!:goodjob:

[dartingd]

my friend just got a ps3 and he said when he went to buy his, the one at best buy had burn marks on it where it had gotten too hot, lol....

[Nittanys1]

dunno about that, but we've played music during excitetruck, which is a very good game!:goodjob:


HOW DID YOU DO THAT? I have pretty much beat the game and am about to sell it....but im interested in how you were able to get your music to play while playing the game!

[dartingd]

it says to load music if you like...put an sd card w/ mp3's on it in ur wii and there ya go!!!