View Full Version : LS/Vtec build gone bad
Vuongy_Dong
01-29-2007, 09:21 PM
An IA member inquired me do a headgasket job on his LS/vtec that has been leaking since day 1 he bought the engine. So i towed his car down to my place and work on it. To my surprise, I've ran into so many unexpected surprises with the way it was put together. I've asked the owner of the car who built this motor, and sadly, its an IA member that did this build. I will not call out any names, as it is not a nice thing to do. lol. Folks, if you want things done right, take it to a professional shop or someone that knows what they are doing. You will save alot of money in the end. Block is trash, the head might be ok.The pictures will explain what i ran into as i only wanted to take the head out, straight edge it and the block and change the head gasket.
the block is trashed. all threads for the head bolts are stripped to hell.
http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=84687&stc=1
http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=84688&stc=1
The head. Why are the dowel pins splitted in half? beats the hell out of me. thats not even the right dowel pins for it! also, the oil hole wasnt tapped. it was welded and shaved off with something i dont even know. no wonder its leaking.
http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=84690&stc=1
http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=84689&stc=1
Guess what head bolts was used on this build? LS head bolts. this doesnt make any sense. the bolts stripped all the threads in the block. the lug nuts used on the 2 long LS head bolts made me laugh all night as i was disassembling everything. lol. I guess the copper spray was used so it can help it seal, as the builder knew it will leak? lol. I guess that the exhaust leak on the header was caused by reusing an old ass gasket? lol
http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=84694&stc=1
http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=84692&stc=1
http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=84693&stc=1
http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=84691&stc=1
Again folks, take your hard earn money to a professional shop or someone you trust. I only do this on the side, as i have a full time job at a company. The owner of the car decided that he will go ahead and buy a gsr long block. Please dont let this kind of stuff happen to you!
drmcivicsi
01-29-2007, 09:27 PM
is this taylors motor ?
DrunkScotsman
01-29-2007, 09:28 PM
JDM , you have a pm!
Vuongy_Dong
01-29-2007, 09:33 PM
JDM , you have a pm!
I'll let ya know tomorrow man. I'll PM you.
twinj
01-29-2007, 09:33 PM
That is fuck up. I hope the owner was prepare for it. How many miles was put on that build before you took it apart.
Vuongy_Dong
01-29-2007, 09:36 PM
That is fuck up. I hope the owner was prepare for it. How many miles was put on that build before you took it apart.
he told me he couldnt even drive out of his subdivision for once with out it overheating and leaking.
Vuongy_Dong
01-29-2007, 09:37 PM
is this taylors motor ?
ummm. his name is not taylor that i know of.
UPMotorsport
01-29-2007, 09:49 PM
Ouch, that looks rough
N/A EK
01-29-2007, 10:23 PM
:redx:
jmmx258
01-29-2007, 10:37 PM
Wow thats some butcher work he deffinetely got :idb:. I wont lie i've re-used an exhaust gasket, but I also cleaned, and re-cleaned it. It worked, with no leaks. But damn, whoever built that motor is a moron. I do dumb things, but that disgusts me!!
allmotoronly
01-29-2007, 10:48 PM
lug nuts. LOL. Some ricer high school kid must have been behind this. Head bolts are cheap.... why would the guy not just buy the right ones? also why the hell would you weld up the oil hole??? what a fucking idiot.
KevinT707
01-30-2007, 12:26 AM
Get em' Vuong .. I saw this motor this past weekend at the shop, sickening. Fix that sick lil Civic ..
silversol
01-30-2007, 12:42 AM
wow thats fucked up!
Slowboy
01-30-2007, 09:27 AM
Them lug nuts had me rolling.I would beat someones ass. and welding lol. geez
BigPoppaHurtm
01-30-2007, 11:36 AM
Cant see the pics :(
Sammich
01-30-2007, 12:00 PM
wheres the pics
SLow_POke
01-30-2007, 01:05 PM
extremely glad you posted this up.!!!
i cant say anything that has been said already.
If you dont know what your doing take it to a shop man .
DO It right the firSt time!
-Ernie
RidingHigh
01-30-2007, 08:40 PM
I wonder who built this motor.
Vuongy_Dong
01-30-2007, 09:25 PM
I wonder who built this motor.
ummm. you are the owner of the shit foo! lol
RISKYB
01-30-2007, 10:23 PM
damn, im just totally lost for words
dELfONiK
02-01-2007, 10:35 PM
.........
puregroove
02-02-2007, 07:57 PM
Hope you got some of your money back...
twinj
02-02-2007, 08:19 PM
that just make you not trust no one. I wonder who did it so I know not to go to them for nothing. The shit they were doing was just fuck up, and its like they did it on purpose to fuck that person over.
Vuongy_Dong
02-03-2007, 08:19 AM
that just make you not trust no one. I wonder who did it so I know not to go to them for nothing. The shit they were doing was just fuck up, and its like they did it on purpose to fuck that person over.
i think the guy that built and sold the motor wanted to make some easy money. He even hook up a MSD ignition kit using speaker wires to the distributor! Feel so bad for the owner of the car, as saving a little money here and there, costed him more in the end.
SKUNK2GUY
02-03-2007, 07:56 PM
wow what a retard when i built my ls/vtec i used arp head studs cause i heard thats the only way you can rev high without fuckin shit up not to mention you shouldn't reuse them anyways
Vteckidd
02-03-2007, 08:15 PM
OH MY GOD
that takes the cake voung.
VTEC studs FTW
He didnt use the offset dowel pins so it just crushed them. the GE dowel pins are offset for the larger vtec head and smaller ls block
you gotta plug the oil passage on the head
damn, thats fucking hilarious, like, i feel bad for your customer, but the fact taht someone did that shit is HILARIOUS. LUG NUTS?
jump on fucking honda-tech and READ it takes 5 mins to learn how to do an LSVTEC
Da_unknown
02-03-2007, 08:30 PM
thats nuts...
RidingHigh
02-04-2007, 10:51 PM
Warning Annihilation had built this motor with his made in china tools.
o0oVteco0o
02-04-2007, 10:56 PM
^^^lmfao !!!!!!!
drmcivicsi
02-04-2007, 11:01 PM
Warning Annihilation had built this motor with his made in china tools.
oh shit someone got called out
Member31410
02-05-2007, 07:20 AM
^^^ Oh snap!!!11 Was this the LS/Vtec motor that made ~146 whp ~104 wtq at the last Mainstream dyno day?
UPMotorsport
02-05-2007, 09:02 AM
Warning Annihilation had built this motor with his made in china tools.
:doh:
swolejamaica
02-05-2007, 10:12 AM
fucked up!!
2.0civic
02-05-2007, 10:14 AM
wait wait wait!! is this really annihilations motor??
UPMotorsport
02-05-2007, 10:14 AM
I wanna see if Annihilation will admit that he built that mess
2.0civic
02-05-2007, 10:16 AM
I wanna see if Annihilation will admit that he built that mess
ive heard of him doing nothing but good work and cant really see him shortcutting it like this...if it is, it puts some other things into perspective also
2.0civic
02-05-2007, 11:40 AM
damn lotta lurkers in here...
Vteckidd
02-05-2007, 11:42 AM
nah i highly doubt OZ would do this
SLow_POke
02-05-2007, 11:44 AM
i think it was Mr. vteckidd. he has vanished from IA so its Probable cause:D
i4_garage
02-05-2007, 12:04 PM
no wonder why i have been missing a few lug nuts from my truck.... Mike did u steal them for this build?...lol.. :)
2.0civic
02-05-2007, 12:05 PM
[']no wonder why i have been missing a few lug nuts from my truck.... Mike did u steal them for this build?...lol.. :)LIRL, so whos engine was it?
i4_garage
02-05-2007, 12:19 PM
i don;t kno... :(
SLow_POke
02-05-2007, 12:42 PM
WHOA some one linked this thread from this one ? ? ? ? ?
http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?t=102127
2.0civic
02-05-2007, 12:57 PM
SO ITS POWERBYHONDAS MOTOR THEN I ASSUME?
SLow_POke
02-05-2007, 01:04 PM
thats what hes making it seem like . on page 2 jdm did tell him is was his motor and car(poweredbyHonda)
o0oVteco0o
02-05-2007, 01:23 PM
it was powerbyhonda little brother motor and car and yes oz did do this build. i wasnt there it was just words on the street, BUT OZ DID BUILD THIS SETUP.
2.0civic
02-05-2007, 01:28 PM
SO WHOS MOTOR IS IT AND WHATS THE ENTIRE STORY??
o0oVteco0o
02-05-2007, 01:35 PM
WORDS ARE OZ BUILT THIS MOTOR SOLD TO POWERBYHONDA LITTLE BROTHER, POWERBYHONDA LITTLE BROTHER DIDNT KNOW NOTHING, SINCE EVERYONE SAID OZ KNOWS HIS SHIT HE TOOK THERE WORDS, NOW THAT OZ FUCKED UP ON THIS MOTOR, LSVTEC GONE BAD :goodjob: i dont know wait til oz respond
UPMotorsport
02-05-2007, 01:36 PM
Man, I wish Oz would post, I wanna see what he has to say and if HE really built it
o0oVteco0o
02-05-2007, 01:38 PM
hes probably hiding, cause he knew he built this motor?
2.0civic
02-05-2007, 01:49 PM
I WOULD STILL LIKE TO SEE DETAILS ON HOW THIS WENT DOWN FROM THE OWNER OF THE MOTOR THEN SEE OZ'S DEFENSE TO IT. AS OF RIGHT NOW, EVERYTHING IN THIS THREAD IS HERESAY
Vuongy_Dong
02-05-2007, 02:14 PM
i knew about this motor months ago when EG2 (IA user) pick me up and took me over to POWREDBYHONDA's house to help make the car start after OZ installed an MSD unit on this car. I noticed that the MSD was installed with SPEAKER WIRES to the distributor, fixed that by taking out the fried MSD that OZ installed for him. Then i knew something might be wrong with the motor as there were bad leaks around the headgasket area. ( it also had copper spray on it ). Months later, POWEREDBYHONDA called me, ask me to do a headgaket job as it was leaking bad and couldnt even drive it out of his neighborhood without overheating. (His car has been sitting in the garage eversince OZ sold him the motor and I presume he installed it too). So i towed his car to my place last week and worked on it. It was suppose to just be a headgasket job, untill i was surprised with what i saw. Called POWEREDBYHONDA and told him the story and told him to come and see, as i wanted him to see it with his own eyes. OZ told POWEREDBYHONDA that he should'nt had rape the motor. OZ didnt want to fix it as he knew that this motor is no good and non-fixable. This is non-sense as this motor wouldnt last anyways. This is OZ's build as the bronze color used on the block is his signature. AND YES, OZ DID BUILD THIS MOTOR FOR THE LAST TIME. I made this thread so everyone can see that buying a motor from someone you thought you can trust, can cost you alot more in the end.
Vuongy_Dong
02-05-2007, 02:32 PM
i knew about this motor months ago when EG2 (IA user) pick me up and took me over to POWREDBYHONDA's house to help make the car start after OZ installed an MSD unit on this car. I noticed that the MSD was installed with SPEAKER WIRES to the distributor, fixed that by taking out the fried MSD that OZ installed for him. Then i knew something might be wrong with the motor as there were bad leaks around the headgasket area. ( it also had copper spray on it ). Months later, POWEREDBYHONDA called me, ask me to do a headgaket job as it was leaking bad and couldnt even drive it out of his neighborhood without overheating. (His car has been sitting in the garage eversince OZ sold him the motor and I presume he installed it too). So i towed his car to my place last week and worked on it. It was suppose to just be a headgasket job, untill i was surprised with what i saw. Called POWEREDBYHONDA and told him the story and told him to come and see, as i wanted him to see it with his own eyes. OZ told POWEREDBYHONDA that he should'nt had rape the motor. OZ didnt want to fix it as he knew that this motor is no good and non-fixable. This is non-sense as this motor wouldnt last anyways. This is OZ's build as the bronze color used on the block is his signature. AND YES, OZ DID BUILD THIS MOTOR FOR THE LAST TIME. I made this thread so everyone can see that buying a motor from someone you thought you can trust, can cost you alot more in the end.
PS: alot of people on this site knows that its OZ's build and they are close friends with him. One of them is a MOD on this site, and i will not name anyone.
Hektik
02-05-2007, 02:41 PM
ive never dealt with oz directly but i have heard MANY BAD things about his quality in work.. to the owner of the motor better luck next time and make sure to do ur research before buying or having someone build ur stuff.... i still want to hear annihaliation's (oz) side of the story.
B18c1Turboed
02-05-2007, 02:44 PM
MAn thats nothing some HOndaBond cant fix!!! :goodjob:
2.0civic
02-05-2007, 02:55 PM
MAn thats nothing some HOndaBond cant fix!!! :goodjob:LOL WHATS HONDABOND?
but seriously, that sucks ass. Ive seen some of "his" other work that looks good...
damn that sucks hardcore
2.0civic
02-05-2007, 02:56 PM
anymore pics of the engine?
Vteckidd
02-05-2007, 03:47 PM
im seriously surprised. I cant believe someone would do that, the lug nuts is just crazy and LAZY
waiting to hear OZs side
2.0civic
02-05-2007, 03:49 PM
im seriously surprised. I cant believe someone would do that, the lug nuts is just crazy and LAZY
waiting to hear OZs side
same here
RidingHigh
02-05-2007, 04:28 PM
http://forums.importatlanta.com/showthread.php?t=78043
Theres the thread. And oz is currently locked up so you wont be hearing him for a while.
2.0civic
02-05-2007, 04:40 PM
whats he locked up for?? did you buy his head and block or just the block?
o0oVteco0o
02-05-2007, 04:41 PM
Why so many ?'s steveo. He bought a COMPLETE LS/VTEC LONG BLOCK
2.0civic
02-05-2007, 04:42 PM
because in that thread, annihilation said the head was sold then sold the block seperate or so it appeared...this is honestly why things like this i dont let backyard mechs do...
RidingHigh
02-05-2007, 05:21 PM
yes both of them are sold to build an lsvtec. Simple right? thats why both are sold on the thread. I have bunch of vouchers that he built the motor. Like 12 head was there when he install the damn thing in the car. Including the damn MOD.
2.0civic
02-05-2007, 05:28 PM
who is this mod you are talking about cause EG2 is no longer a mod
RidingHigh
02-05-2007, 05:33 PM
Thats who im talking about.
2.0civic
02-05-2007, 05:36 PM
he is no longer a mod and hasnt been for awhile
2.0civic
02-05-2007, 05:37 PM
the funny (funny strange not haha) is how EG2 vouched for the block in the FS thread saying it was good
i4_garage
02-05-2007, 05:55 PM
^^hahaha....oh its not that "funny" :)
RidingHigh
02-05-2007, 05:56 PM
they all in it to make money...
2.0civic
02-05-2007, 05:57 PM
they all in it to make money...
true but most people try to do it legitimately and not fuck people over....
RidingHigh
02-05-2007, 05:59 PM
they all in it to make money... Theres more dirt on him but who knows theres probably more dirt on him than i expected.
SLow_POke
02-05-2007, 06:06 PM
and the plot thickens
srtowner
02-05-2007, 06:13 PM
Wow thats some butcher work he deffinetely got :idb:. I wont lie i've re-used an exhaust gasket, but I also cleaned, and re-cleaned it. It worked, with no leaks. But damn, whoever built that motor is a moron. I do dumb things, but that disgusts me!!
Well it's one thing if you do somethign dumb on your own motor. It's an entirely differant mater when you screw someone else over with work like that.
* I was in no way implying you did this work just making a statement.*
2.0civic
02-05-2007, 06:13 PM
and the plot thickens
indeed....
RidingHigh
02-05-2007, 06:33 PM
All we wanted was a running vtec motor. Simple as that. But he refuse to fix anything and start to text banging with my little bro. Mofo won't even pick up that damn phone calls. He guareent that everything will be running and done correctly.
o0oVteco0o
02-05-2007, 10:49 PM
first off, we all know each other, EG2 AND I AND THE WHOLE CREW CAN VOUCH FOR THAT MOTOR, i said we all vouch for it, not him putting it all together come on now?, when he sold it, it was all disassemble so we all vouch for it, steveo get your shit straight, oz fucked up on the build, no one fucked up on the vouching THINK bitch. i wasnt there when he had built it, nor when he did the swap, but i can vouch that the block was good and also the head, i was there when they did the first swap into the ef before.
RidingHigh
02-06-2007, 05:20 PM
damn, i dont know who this dude is but he can also vouch for me.
first off, we all know each other, EG2 AND I AND THE WHOLE CREW CAN VOUCH FOR THAT MOTOR, i said we all vouch for it, not him putting it all together come on now?, when he sold it, it was all disassemble so we all vouch for it, steveo get your shit straight, oz fucked up on the build, no one fucked up on the vouching THINK bitch. i wasnt there when he had built it, nor when he did the swap, but i can vouch that the block was good and also the head, i was there when they did the first swap into the ef before.
o0oVteco0o
02-06-2007, 07:00 PM
where you at steveo you was whoring this thread up with all your ?'s!....!!!.,any other dumb comments you have?
2.0civic
02-07-2007, 10:18 AM
YEAH.
MY NEXT ? IS WHY DONT YOU PULL THE DICK OUT OF YOUR ASS....I CANT FIGURE OUT WHY YOU GO ON BASHING SOMEONES WORK THEN SIT THERE AND VOUCH FOR THE SHITTY WORK ORIGINALLY AND THEN YOU TURN AROUND AND GET PISSED OFF CAUSE MORE PEOPLE WANT BETTER EXPLANATIONS.
AS WAS ALREADY SAID, A FEW PEOPLE ON HERE HAVENT SEEN SHITTY WORK LIKE THAT FROM HIM WHICH IS WHY WE ARE ASKING ?'S. DONT LIKE IT? FUCK YOURSELF
HAVE A NICE DAY.
BITCH.
Damn I always hate to see this kind of shit. Reminds me of a situation with a kid I knew who was impatient and wanted to cheap out. He wanted a GSR swap, I told him to go to Mainstream as they would provide a quality motorset and quality install. He decided to find a "good deal" on ebay. He had the motor swapped in and it lasted about 150 miles before it slung a rod through the side of the block. Live and learn. That's all I can say. Good luck on getting your vehicle back in running order. Even if it means spending a little extra money, do it right THE FIRST TIME!!!! It always saves you money in the end.
o0oVteco0o
02-07-2007, 10:58 AM
look kidd, we vouched for the motor, we didnt vouch for the job being done got that? we vouch that the motor was good, we didnt vouch if he can put it together and make it good, aite now pull that dick out of your mouth and talk back with out caps, in that case pull out the dick out of your self
2.0civic
02-07-2007, 11:01 AM
look kidd, we vouched for the motor, we didnt vouch for the job being done got that? we vouch that the motor was good, we didnt vouch if he can put it together and make it good, aite now pull that dick out of your mouth and talk back with out caps, in that case pull out the dick out of your self
FIRST OFF, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO VOUCH FOR A MOTOR BUT NOT HOW ITS PUT TOGETHER. IM NOT FOLLOWING THAT...SORRY ENGLISH IS MY FIRST LANGUAGE.
WHAT "JOB" ARE YOU NOT VOUCHING FOR?? APPARENTLY THE MOTOR YOU ARE VOUCHING FOR IS THE ENTIRE ISSUE HERE AND NOW YOU ARE BACKTRACKING SAYING THE MOTOR WAS GOOD..WHICH IS IT?
o0oVteco0o
02-07-2007, 11:07 AM
AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE PICTURE THE MOTOR WAS DISASSEMBLE, like i said i wasnt there when he did the swap nor when he did the build, but the motor was good as it was pictured look again you stupid motherfucker.
2.0civic
02-07-2007, 11:08 AM
AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE PICTURE THE MOTOR WAS DISASSEMBLE, like i said i wasnt there when he did the swap nor when he did the build, but the motor was good as it was pictured look again you stupid motherfucker.
IM STUPID?? LIRL...SORRY I BUILD MY OWN SHIT SO CRAP LIKE THIS DOESNT HAPPEN...
YOU WANT PEOPLE TO TRY TO HELP YOU AND TAKE YOUR SIDE BUT YET YOU ARE BEING A COMPLETE FUCKSTICK ABOUT IT
Vuongy_Dong
02-07-2007, 11:09 AM
damn. where is this thread heading too? Steveo has the right to ask questions, as with anyone else. some people see good stuff and some see bad things from OZ.
2.0civic
02-07-2007, 11:09 AM
AND THE ONLY PICTURE I SEE LOOKS LIKE A BLOWN THE FUCK UP MOTOR AND I HATE TO TELL YOU BUT IF THATS WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE BEFORE, YOU ARE A DUMBASS FOR "VOUCHING" FOR IT CAUSE IT STILL LOOKS SHITTY
2.0civic
02-07-2007, 11:10 AM
damn. where is this thread heading too? Steveo has the right to ask questions, as with anyone else. some people see good stuff and some see bad things from OZ.
THANKS. WHICH IS WHAT IM SAYING. PEOPLE DESERVE THE ENTIRE STORY. ITS TOO BAD SOME PEOPLE DONT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE LOOKING FOR WHEN IT COMES TO THINGS LIKE THIS AND WITH THE IGNITION DONE WITH SPEAKER WIRE, THEY OBVIOUSLY DIDNT KNOW WHAT THEY WERE GETTING INTO BUT BEING A TOOL ABOUT IT IS REDICULOUS
o0oVteco0o
02-07-2007, 11:13 AM
how am i being fuckstick? IF THATS EVEN A WORD, all i said was oz had built this motor. then you talking about we vouch for a motor that was totally screwed? you do catch your point knowing that your wrong correct? now that you stfu and know that your wrong im guessin you tryin get away with your self right there. we said the motor was good not about it being built by him, read your self you stupid mother fucker read it again
ps: oh im sorry am i pissing you off cause im maken you look like a complete stupid fuck on ia? so you had to neg. rep me? haha i dont give a fuck. neg rep me all you want, not gonna stop me from buying/selling posting on ia, :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao:
Vuongy_Dong
02-07-2007, 11:14 AM
THANKS. WHICH IS WHAT IM SAYING. PEOPLE DESERVE THE ENTIRE STORY. ITS TOO BAD SOME PEOPLE DONT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE LOOKING FOR WHEN IT COMES TO THINGS LIKE THIS AND WITH THE IGNITION DONE WITH SPEAKER WIRE, THEY OBVIOUSLY DIDNT KNOW WHAT THEY WERE GETTING INTO BUT BEING A TOOL ABOUT IT IS REDICULOUS
You are correct. I am so curious to know who this OoVtecOo is.
im with you on that vuong thats why i just callled you and ask lol. i been readin this thread usin my uncle sn for a minute, but so far he sure knows what hes talking about, i bet i know him just dont know who he is right now under that name, cause in the other thread he sure hells know what he were sayin about saturday night.
Vuongy_Dong
02-07-2007, 11:25 AM
some one run an IP on this man. trying to see is he a fimiliar.
2.0civic
02-07-2007, 11:32 AM
brb
2.0civic
02-07-2007, 11:32 AM
and lol at not affecting you selling things.....
LOLOLOL
sorry :)
2.0civic
02-07-2007, 11:33 AM
<--- your favorite FS mod....
o0oVteco0o
02-07-2007, 11:35 AM
as long as i follow the rules you cant do shit about it!!..!
2.0civic
02-07-2007, 11:38 AM
lol thats what you think!
2.0civic
02-07-2007, 11:38 AM
discretion>rules and my discretion is you are a tool
Vuongy_Dong
02-07-2007, 11:41 AM
Who is it?
2.0civic
02-07-2007, 11:41 AM
LOLOL at people pming people from other SN's...i know who it is....
bout time reveal him self who is it
2.0civic
02-07-2007, 11:45 AM
a few of us already know....
2.0civic
02-07-2007, 11:46 AM
just waiting on the IP to finalize it
o0oVteco0o
02-07-2007, 11:46 AM
as long as i follow the rules, and you keep deletin my shit you lose your rights, but in that case with me you get your ass kicked
Vuongy_Dong
02-07-2007, 11:47 AM
how sad........
2.0civic
02-07-2007, 11:47 AM
as long as i follow the rules, and you keep deletin my shit you lose your rights, but in that case with me you get your ass kicked
LIRL you have no idea who you are talking to...
BACK DOWN SON
o0oVteco0o
02-07-2007, 11:49 AM
im talking to a long hair faggot ass motherfucker!..!.
2.0civic
02-07-2007, 11:51 AM
like i said...you dont know me LIRL..for ATLEAST the 100th time, thats not me
Vuongy_Dong
02-07-2007, 03:23 PM
OoovtecOoo, the way you type your sentences sounds like someone i know.
2.0civic
02-07-2007, 03:27 PM
OoovtecOoo, the way you type your sentences sounds like someone i know.
it is....
B18c1Turboed
02-07-2007, 03:33 PM
I know i know!!!:screwy: :2up:
RandomGuy
02-07-2007, 06:15 PM
An IA member inquired me do a headgasket job on his LS/vtec that has been leaking since day 1 he bought the engine. So i towed his car down to my place and work on it. To my surprise, I've ran into so many unexpected surprises with the way it was put together. I've asked the owner of the car who built this motor, and sadly, its an IA member that did this build. I will not call out any names, as it is not a nice thing to do. lol. Folks, if you want things done right, take it to a professional shop or someone that knows what they are doing. You will save alot of money in the end. Block is trash, the head might be ok.The pictures will explain what i ran into as i only wanted to take the head out, straight edge it and the block and change the head gasket.
the block is trashed. all threads for the head bolts are stripped to hell.
http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=84687&stc=1
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The head. Why are the dowel pins splitted in half? beats the hell out of me. thats not even the right dowel pins for it! also, the oil hole wasnt tapped. it was welded and shaved off with something i dont even know. no wonder its leaking.
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Guess what head bolts was used on this build? LS head bolts. this doesnt make any sense. the bolts stripped all the threads in the block. the lug nuts used on the 2 long LS head bolts made me laugh all night as i was disassembling everything. lol. I guess the copper spray was used so it can help it seal, as the builder knew it will leak? lol. I guess that the exhaust leak on the header was caused by reusing an old ass gasket? lol
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Again folks, take your hard earn money to a professional shop or someone you trust. I only do this on the side, as i have a full time job at a company. The owner of the car decided that he will go ahead and buy a gsr long block. Please dont let this kind of stuff happen to you!
OH MY GOD THIS IS HILARIOUSSS HAHAHAH
idiots are believing his shit...
first off... for the record... OZ BUILDS HIGH QUALITY SHIT AND THAT WAS FOR SURE NOT WHAT HE DID BECAUSE I WAS THERE WHEN HE BUILT THE MOTOR LOL.... anyways ((( I"M THE ONE WHO DROVE TO MAHDAVI WHEN WE WENT TO GET THE ARP HEAD STUDS AND LS VTEC CONVERSION LINES MOTHERFUCKER CUZ YOU NEEDED THAT SHIT ASAP))) if he had the proper shit why would he ghetto rig it? specially when its a customer's build. His biz thrives on reputation, pretty sad of you to try to down that.
Hrm... dont ALL THREE of the accusors owe Oz money
John... ~$400 (motor build)
Jimmy... ~$200 (clutch change)
Leo's theifing ass (EG2) ~$600-700 (by the way he stole Oz's laptop and some phones from his house and got caught, this dumbass accidently stole 2 BROKEN treo 650s that he had for sale instead of the new ones hahahahah fucking dumb peice of shit)
so anyways they owed him ... now they figure busting this bullshit out and he'll clear their debts...
lol but any how i heard of this shit months ago when Oz's like that motherfucker took that shit to like 10 different mechanics bc he wasn't going to check out your "overheating car" aka: BLOWN HEADGASKET because you owed him $ for the build and didn't pay him.. .i was there when u called about that shit.... lol i'm like don't do SHIT unless he pays you for the rest... and it as ALL your fault that the headgasket blew... the fan wasn't part of his job anyhow...
but thats just what I know off the bat i'm gonna wait for him to post... i already called him up....
anyhow NO WHERE CAN YOU GET A WARRANTY ON A MOTOR BUILD...
by the way that is clearly not the motor that Oz built for this waste of sperm.
(different cams... ARP head bolts!!! (oz has like 10 empty boxes in his garage... why the fuck would he use... watever the fuck those were).... That may be the motor that he built for you, but that for damn sure isn't the parts that he put in it.
anyhow you guys still owe him money .... this bullshit wont help at all.
and Leo... you are in for an ass whooping... fuckin faggot ass theif
RandomGuy
02-07-2007, 07:31 PM
hey dumbass,
you forgot to mention how oz installed that one leprechaun that magically turned your head studs into head bolts.
damn man you missed it, i got you covered though.
good thing i noticed
he built my friends car and its been running for over a year now and he got a decent price so its pretty decent... he drives the fuck outta it too
vtec_laggin
02-07-2007, 08:27 PM
i'll vouch for Oz's craftsmanship all day, anyone feel like railing me for that? so how bout the people that never had a motor built by Oz put a cork in it--until you're talking from personal experience, your input is garbage. dude built up my h22, did the rings, valve seals, studs, crank seals, hone and polished, etc. all that good stuff, motor runs like a champ. accordin to Random Guy, having an assortment of mechanics touching your shit doesn't sound like a round idea, if you're not knowledgeable enough to mess with your own motor, who knows what people gonna do to it if you put it in there hands, or should i say lots of hands.
UPMotorsport
02-07-2007, 08:39 PM
I can vouch for OZ too, Ive done business with him a couple times, Ive also bought a vtec head from him in amazing condition, NOTHING wrong with it. OZ is a good guy, I highly doubt he built this, I think the guy whos motor this is has some explaining to do
Vuongy_Dong
02-07-2007, 09:15 PM
Random Guy, who are you calling a dumbass? First off, this is going by what the owner said. Also, why is OZ lurking around in this thread under username TYPERACER? This is not the first motor I've seen from him. He sold vinhsbodys a gsr long block that he said was good. I did a leak down test on it and 1 of the cylinder was not good. Vinhbodys had only gave him $800 down payment, and owed him another $500 for a total of $1300. Vinhbodys then calls him and told him that the leak down test was not good, and wanted a refund. OZ said go ahead and keep it for $800. Now, if the motor was good, he could of gotten $1300 for it, but instead he let it go for $800.
vtec_laggin
02-07-2007, 09:16 PM
that longblock was originally mine, i sold it to Oz and told him it was good because it didnt act stupid in my car. so Oz took my word and said it was good when he sold it. whoever bought it from Oz, saved 500 for prolly a bad ring or valve seal. like dude above me said, OZ only got 800 out of the 1300 he wanted, the other dude saved 500. so whats the problem??
Annihilation
02-07-2007, 09:23 PM
Yes, I built him a motor. I did not build that motor. That is my block however, I can still see the paint that I put on it. I dont know who the fuck redid that top end, and you know it wasn't like that when I gave it to you. That is all I have to say. I dont know wtf you're trying to pull, but YOU STILL OWE ME MONEY for the motor that I did build you... i dont know who the fuck in the right mind did that, probably the idiots who you took it to because I wasn't going to lay a finger on it until you paid me in full.
Annihilation
02-07-2007, 09:31 PM
Random Guy, who are you calling a dumbass? First off, this is going by what the owner said. Also, why is OZ lurking around in this thread under username TYPERACER? This is not the first motor I've seen from him. He sold vinhsbodys a gsr long block that he said was good. I did a leak down test on it and 1 of the cylinder was not good. Vinhbodys had only gave him $800 down payment, and owed him another $500 for a total of $1300. Vinhbodys then calls him and told him that the leak down test was not good, and wanted a refund. OZ said go ahead and keep it for $800. Now, if the motor was good, he could of gotten $1300 for it, but instead he let it go for $800.
i didn't build that motor, it was a used motor from a running car....
He said it was bad, I thought it was good, I was going to give him a refund after he showed it was bad. He said he wanted to keep it as it is for $800 or he wants a refund. I already spent the money so I just took a loss at 800. You can ask him to verify that.
More than likely the valves were probably just leaking due to carbon buildup around the valve seat.
but anyhow that was out of my hand and I took care of that.
RidingHigh
02-07-2007, 09:33 PM
STFU. OZ build this fucking motor. Dont get me started with this shit. Motherfucker we was there when he took off the b18a bolts and studs at joli house. Its nice to know fucking oz is a fucking theif too. Hes the one that took frosty car and sold the swap to some black guy that work at frys. And tell oz to get under his name and stop bashing under a different SN. He must think he is very cool Bashing my homeboy mailbox or something. Yeah you must very cool for that shit. And first of all john paid him a thousand dollar for it and will finish paying him when he finish what he started like the fucking deal was ASSHOLE. TELL THAT NIGGAH TO STOP HIDING AND EXPLAIN himself because he knew damn well he fuckin up this motor. LAUGH AT YOURSELF HOE!
OH MY GOD THIS IS HILARIOUSSS HAHAHAH
idiots are believing his shit...
first off... for the record... OZ BUILDS HIGH QUALITY SHIT AND THAT WAS FOR SURE NOT WHAT HE DID BECAUSE I WAS THERE WHEN HE BUILT THE MOTOR LOL.... anyways ((( I"M THE ONE WHO DROVE TO MAHDAVI WHEN WE WENT TO GET THE ARP HEAD STUDS AND LS VTEC CONVERSION LINES MOTHERFUCKER CUZ YOU NEEDED THAT SHIT ASAP))) if he had the proper shit why would he ghetto rig it? specially when its a customer's build. His biz thrives on reputation, pretty sad of you to try to down that.
Hrm... dont ALL THREE of the accusors owe Oz money
John... ~$400 (motor build)
Jimmy... ~$200 (clutch change)
Leo's theifing ass (EG2) ~$600-700 (by the way he stole Oz's laptop and some phones from his house and got caught, this dumbass accidently stole 2 BROKEN treo 650s that he had for sale instead of the new ones hahahahah fucking dumb peice of shit)
so anyways they owed him ... now they figure busting this bullshit out and he'll clear their debts...
lol but any how i heard of this shit months ago when Oz's like that motherfucker took that shit to like 10 different mechanics bc he wasn't going to check out your "overheating car" aka: BLOWN HEADGASKET because you owed him $ for the build and didn't pay him.. .i was there when u called about that shit.... lol i'm like don't do SHIT unless he pays you for the rest... and it as ALL your fault that the headgasket blew... the fan wasn't part of his job anyhow...
but thats just what I know off the bat i'm gonna wait for him to post... i already called him up....
anyhow NO WHERE CAN YOU GET A WARRANTY ON A MOTOR BUILD...
by the way that is clearly not the motor that Oz built for this waste of sperm.
(different cams... ARP head bolts!!! (oz has like 10 empty boxes in his garage... why the fuck would he use... watever the fuck those were).... That may be the motor that he built for you, but that for damn sure isn't the parts that he put in it.
anyhow you guys still owe him money .... this bullshit wont help at all.
and Leo... you are in for an ass whooping... fuckin faggot ass theif
RidingHigh
02-07-2007, 09:37 PM
LIKE WE SAID we just wanted a fucking running motor. But instead he fuck us over. SIMPLE AS THAT.
Annihilation
02-07-2007, 10:00 PM
STFU. OZ build this fucking motor. Dont get me started with this shit. Motherfucker we was there when he took off the b18a bolts and studs at joli house. Its nice to know fucking oz is a fucking theif too. Hes the one that took frosty car and sold the swap to some black guy that work at frys. And tell oz to get under his name and stop bashing under a different SN. He must think he is very cool Bashing my homeboy mailbox or something. Yeah you must very cool for that shit. And first of all john paid him a thousand dollar for it and will finish paying him when he finish what he started like the fucking deal was ASSHOLE. TELL THAT NIGGAH TO STOP HIDING AND EXPLAIN himself because he knew damn well he fuckin up this motor. LAUGH AT YOURSELF HOE!
Yall wannabe gangbangers need to come out with some better shit than he said she said shit..... I took frosty's car? sold his shit to some black guy? bring him...meet me at bp this weekend with him....tell him to say it in front of everyone....prove your shit.....
Bashing your friends' mailboxes..........wtf is that about? why the hell would i knock down a mailbox? what is that gonna accomplish....
he calls me 2wks later stating his car is overheating and then has it check by one of his friend...friend tells his his radiator fan is not working and that he blew his gasket.... how is that my fault....where did all the internals go? he sold them or something.... hell before he even overheated his shit he wanted to trade the ls/ctr block for a b16 block...I agreed, but I was not going to swap it out for free.......labor+time is not free...I have my own shit to do
all this shit about how much your brother talks about wanting to beat my ass behind my back adn he cant step up........had so many chances when i was alone......all his faggot ass does is stand there looks and me and looks down....
Everyday I would get some childish message about how he is gonna kick my ass if he see's me and its been how long now...4 months.... hell I even came to your house alone and john was there....wat did he do....SHIT, he and yall arent nothing but childish gangster wannabe thugs
go fuck yallselves.... matter of fact i'ma download his text messages from my phone and post them up tomorrow
If any of this shit was true you would have called me and told me in person .....you know I woulda told ya to stfu....your online bashing is all you can do cuz that is where you'll feel the strongest..E-bangers FTL trying to get away from your debts anyway possible
I'm done here........
RidingHigh
02-07-2007, 10:16 PM
im not e thuging unlike you. Im just telling the people out there you fucked the build and my brother called you everyday to fix it. He didnt wanted to pay you until you finish it. I didnt even want to call you out. AND i told john dont even to start with you because i respect PUN. It wasnt you that sold the swap it but it was your boy. But i aint going to say anymore of that till he handle that with YOU! Noone touch the swap until voung touch it. Yeah he did made a few call and ask anyone that can check his motor. He bought everything like you said. FPR, 225 fuel pump, MSD that you personally install with speaker wires. And the neighbor saw you broke into his house so stfu.
RidingHigh
02-07-2007, 10:31 PM
im done with this. I see you when i see you.
2.0civic
02-08-2007, 10:39 AM
lol at how bad this thread has gotten...
RandomGuy
02-08-2007, 04:00 PM
Noone touch the swap until voung touch it.
HAHAHA i know thats a lie bc i was there when whoever ur brother ur u called oz like yeah man i'm getting ___so and so___ to do my head gasket and etc etc. person after person u tried to lowball to do it. I remember because he's like so he has money to get his headgasket redone by someone but no money to pay me back?
Whoever redid your head after you blew your headgasket fucked you over, ORRR you just jacked all the shit that oz put in there sold that shit and expected oz to build you another motor... uh no it dont work like that.
Oz built sooooooo many motors for people on here and NOT ONE PERSON had a complaint.(on built motors by him)... (1 complaint on a used motor, key word: USED) Honestly man, why would he fuck you over, (in all seriousness). Do you feel that you offended him somehow where he would half ass your build like that? Do you think he's just a dishonest person to do some shit like that? I'm tellin you man you gotta check up on whoever touched it for the head... they jacked alot of $$ shit. (and stop playing that no one touched my motor after oz bullshit either)
If Oz built a motor for you or someone you know please post in here... it has nothing to do with ^^^ these guys, just the fact that his biz relies on reputation and nothing else.
2.0civic
02-08-2007, 04:13 PM
HAHAHA i know thats a lie bc i was there when whoever ur brother ur u called oz like yeah man i'm getting ___so and so___ to do my head gasket and etc etc. person after person u tried to lowball to do it. I remember because he's like so he has money to get his headgasket redone by someone but no money to pay me back?
Whoever redid your head after you blew your headgasket fucked you over, ORRR you just jacked all the shit that oz put in there sold that shit and expected oz to build you another motor... uh no it dont work like that.
Oz built sooooooo many motors for people on here and NOT ONE PERSON had a complaint.(on built motors by him)... (1 complaint on a used motor, key word: USED) Honestly man, why would he fuck you over, (in all seriousness). Do you feel that you offended him somehow where he would half ass your build like that? Do you think he's just a dishonest person to do some shit like that? I'm tellin you man you gotta check up on whoever touched it for the head... they jacked alot of $$ shit. (and stop playing that no one touched my motor after oz bullshit either)
If Oz built a motor for you or someone you know please post in here... it has nothing to do with ^^^ these guys, just the fact that his biz relies on reputation and nothing else.
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RG, so how long did they have the swap before it blew up?? they arent seeming to be telling the entire story so share what you know man
Vuongy_Dong
02-08-2007, 04:29 PM
I only took it apart to discover this. AGAIN, this is what I've seen. IF, key word IF, anyone had it before me, i dont know what to say. This is going by the owner of the car. I only know them recently when they asked me to do a headgasket job. I am not hiding anything here. I have nothing against OZ, just the motor that was assembled by him and what the owner had said. Random Guy, if the DUMBASS remark was towards me, you dont know me at all. this is not a threat, but an advise.
RidingHigh
02-08-2007, 04:32 PM
NOONE TOUCH THE MOTOR beside oz and voung. That i can promise. I rather have the lsvtec working and to buy another motor. Spend another 2 grand on the motor. Believe that, dont think we dont have the money to pay oz. The car never blew because it just let it run in the driveway and it starts leaking. Simple as that. Plus have oz told you that john paid him 1000 plus 99 ls motor from nada auto which costed 900 dollar. Please dont say anything because you dont know jack.
RidingHigh
02-08-2007, 04:35 PM
he only had it for two week and it start leaking. And again he never touch the road. Because oz promise him that he will do his emission and pass for him which he never did. I dont have anything against oz. Just that he DID gave him warrenty and lots of other shit he promise. And i promise he had all the money. Thats why he bought all the stuff he asked him to. He never pick up on phones or nothing.
Vuongy_Dong
02-08-2007, 04:57 PM
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RG, so how long did they have the swap before it blew up?? they arent seeming to be telling the entire story so share what you know man
1 thing i noticed about IA after 2 years on being on here. People that know each other tends to stick together on this board. They will bash newbies that are PROBALLY telling the truth. I have alot of trash on some people on IA, you dont see me saying anything on here. From theives to stealing shit, i dont bash them. Its not my bussiness. I have heard good things about OZ, and alot of bad things from him. I have done alot of customer cars that had known OZ, and they tell me their opinions. Point is, no one is perfect in building motors. you will have fuck ups. I had couple of IA members that was there when i pulled the head off the block. Head doesnt look like its been tooken off before. (Copper Spray). If i fucked up a motor build, i would post it. Its just funny that OZ goes in the thread under TYPERACER and reads here and there for awhile, then goes under his SN and post. its just fishy to me. Then random guy and some of his other boys come to the rescue. Random Guy, i have nothing else to say to you. You know what had happened, and yall are boys. i understand, thats life. taking up for each other. I know people that knows OZ and know alot of other people, and WHAT THEY DO. Do you ever see me bash on anyone or snitching on people for what they done illegally? nope. In my opinion, I think the owner of the car did tell the truth.
RandomGuy
02-08-2007, 08:46 PM
1 thing i noticed about IA after 2 years on being on here. People that know each other tends to stick together on this board. They will bash newbies that are PROBALLY telling the truth. I have alot of trash on some people on IA, you dont see me saying anything on here. From theives to stealing shit, i dont bash them. Its not my bussiness. I have heard good things about OZ, and alot of bad things from him. I have done alot of customer cars that had known OZ, and they tell me their opinions. Point is, no one is perfect in building motors. you will have fuck ups. I had couple of IA members that was there when i pulled the head off the block. Head doesnt look like its been tooken off before. (Copper Spray). If i fucked up a motor build, i would post it. Its just funny that OZ goes in the thread under TYPERACER and reads here and there for awhile, then goes under his SN and post. its just fishy to me. Then random guy and some of his other boys come to the rescue. Random Guy, i have nothing else to say to you. You know what had happened, and yall are boys. i understand, thats life. taking up for each other. I know people that knows OZ and know alot of other people, and WHAT THEY DO. Do you ever see me bash on anyone or snitching on people for what they done illegally? nope.
Dumbass= them... I just quoted that post bc it had the pictures.
In my opinion, I think the owner of the car did tell the truth.
i KNOW otherwise... but i guess its just an opinion to yall so whatever.
and its not about the $ (oz can afford)... just the fact they are blaming him for things that other ppl did.
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