Abortion Doctor Killer

[Hulud]

Abortion doctor's killer convicted again

BUFFALO, N.Y. - A man already serving time in a state prison for the sniper-shooting death of a doctor was convicted Thursday on a federal charge of targeting and killing the man because he provided abortions.

The jury deliberated about four hours over two days before deciding James Kopp violated the federal Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances Act in the 1998 slaying of Dr. Barnett Slepian.

Kopp, who represented himself during the two-week trial, tried to convince jurors during his closing arguments that he didn't mean to kill Slepian when he fired from woods into the doctor's Amherst home. Kopp said he intended only to wound him to prevent him from performing abortions the next day.

"If it happened the way I wanted it to, he would have his arm in a sling," said Kopp, who is serving a 25-year-to-life state sentence.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Kathleen Mehltretter argued Kopp's long and careful planning of the shooting and his choice of weapon _ a Russian military assault rifle _ proved his deadly intent.

"If you want to injure a person, you don't shoot them with a high-powered rifle," Mehltretter said.

Kopp fled to Mexico, Ireland and France, where he was captured in March 2001. He had been added to the FBI's list of the Ten Most Wanted fugitives in June 1999.

Slepian's wife, Lynne Slepian, smiled and hugged prosecutors after the verdict Thursday. She then left to call her sons, declining to talk to reporters.

Federal prosecutors will seek a prison term of life without parole, U.S. Attorney Terrance Flynn said. Sentencing is set for June 19.

"Hopefully, this will give (Lynne Slepian) what she's always wanted, that she will never have to go to any state parole hearings," Flynn said.

Kopp would be in his 70s before becoming eligible for parole on his 2003 second-degree murder conviction.

Most jurors left the courthouse without commenting Thursday. "He was guilty, and the evidence proved it," a female juror said on her way out.

"We just went by the law," a male juror added.

Both declined to identify themselves.

[Hulud]

personally i dont give a fuck what your beliefs are on abortion, this fucker needs to be burned alive



he killed the doctor because he did abortions


fucking stupid

[2.0civic]

what are we about to open a can on? open and shut case...fucker admitted it

[Lucky DAWG]

note to self...

be nice to the fat neighbor who plays on his slip and slide at age 40

he might come at me with a sniper...

[Extrememustang]

if your far away and you use a sniper rifle and get the hell on after you shoot once, how are you caught?

[Verik]

incriminating evidence possibly from where he took the shot? say a hair or something of that nature?

[efman]

Abortion is murder, but two wrongs don't make a right. If the guy felt so strongly about it he should of done something legal to fight abortion.

[{X}Echo419]

personally i dont give a fuck what your beliefs are on abortion, this fucker needs to be burned alive



he killed the doctor because he did abortions

fucking stupid

does anybody else see the irony here? :lmfao:

[Hulud]

does anybody else see the irony here? :lmfao:
thatd be like killing a person in the military, if everyone did that

[ShooterMcGavin]

personally i dont give a fuck what your beliefs are on abortion, this fucker needs to be burned alive



he killed the doctor because he did abortions


fucking stupid
this dumbass should've been aborted :lmfao:

[cornercarver78]

I don't see how someone can say that abortion isn't murder. I't is takeing of a human life. Support it or not, it is murder. So why is it ironic that this guy also was murdered.

[ShooterMcGavin]

lol what're u retarded? u just answered ur own question and still don't see how it's ironic that someone is willing to MURDER to stop MURDERS? wow, some ppl :screwy:

[cornercarver78]

Nope. What the guy did was wrong, but i realy don't see it as ironic. If you steal from people, is it ironic when your own house gets robbed? Call it karma or whatever you want, but the doctor killed unborn children, and he was killed. What's ironic about that.

[ShooterMcGavin]

Nope. What the guy did was wrong, but i realy don't see it as ironic. If you steal from people, is it ironic when your own house gets robbed? Call it karma or whatever you want, but the doctor killed unborn children, and he was killed. What's ironic about that.
bwahahahahaha, ok i concede, you ARE a retard. :lmfao:

[cornercarver78]

bwahahahahaha, ok i concede, you ARE a retard. :lmfao:

Irony- "an incongruity between the actual result of a sequence of of events and the normal or expected result"

Soo.... if you steal from others the expected result is that it would get around and you would suffer theft= not ironic :goodjob:

[ShooterMcGavin]

just bc u know how to google a word's definition does not mean u understand it's usage :goodjob:

[cornercarver78]

just bc u know how to google a word's definition does not mean u understand it's usage :goodjob:

But my usage of the word in congrouance with the definition DOES mean that i understand it, and that you are ignorant "retard". Learn to read.

[Mr_Mischif]

I'll try; he KILLED people to keep people from KILLING people. And he's about to get KILLED because of it. That's where the irony comes in.

[ShooterMcGavin]

But my usage of the word in congrouance with the definition DOES mean that i understand it, and that you are ignorant "retard". Learn to read.
ok jackass, now ur just gettin annoying. let's take ur dimwitted example. someone who went out to rob someone would NOT expect their own house to be robbed while they're gone correct? i mean who DOES expect their house to be robbed while they're away doing ANYTHING? do u comprehend that? if so then take ur google definition and apply it, if u cannot and/or it does not make sense to u still then just accept the fact that u are a moron.

[ShooterMcGavin]

I'll try; he KILLED people to keep people from KILLING people. And he's about to get KILLED because of it. That's where the irony comes in.
exactly! reps to someone who actually graduated from grade school.

[cornercarver78]

someone who went out to rob someone would NOT expect their own house to be robbed while they're gone correct?.

No, it is accepted in most theologies, or philosophies that "what goes around comes around" if you will. Therefore It is not "ironic" that someone suffers the same wrong that they commit. That scenario is better described as "poetic justice". Again refer to my definition of irony if you are still confused.

[cornercarver78]

ok jackass, now ur just gettin annoying. let's take ur dimwitted example. someone who went out to rob someone would NOT expect their own house to be robbed while they're gone correct? i mean who DOES expect their house to be robbed while they're away doing ANYTHING? do u comprehend that? if so then take ur google definition and apply it, if u cannot and/or it does not make sense to u still then just accept the fact that u are a moron.

I'm getting annoying? All i did was state my opinion and you couldn't accept another person's opinion. Go fuck yourself.

[OvErMiNd]

Pro abortion...why? Because it's a hell of a lot better to kill one person who didn't even know what was going on then have a whole society suffer financially from a baby born into poverty. I know that's not always the case, but kids who aren't offered a great childhood, whether it be shitty young parents or money problems, usually grow up to be shit in this world. You can walk around east Atlanta and see why these people needed a hanger years ago.

and that is coming from a registered Republican.

[cornercarver78]

so in the same spirit, lets go kill all homeless, drug addicted, and otherwise useless people to our society. How about people in prison for life? They are a huge expense to tax payers, and have already demonstrated what they will make out of their life.

[ShooterMcGavin]

No, it is accepted in most theologies, or philosophies that "what goes around comes around" if you will. Therefore It is not "ironic" that someone suffers the same wrong that they commit. That scenario is better described as "poetic justice". Again refer to my definition of irony if you are still confused.

i don't give a fuck what theologies or philosophies believe in "what goes around comes around", that has no bearing on what the meaning of irony is and how it's used. maybe ur so ignorant that u can't even see outside of one lame example u've come up with. say i hate pets and can't stand the dog i have, now say i decide to take such dog to the humane society to give it away, wouldn't it be IRONIC if i came home and found out my gf just went out and bought a new puppy? open ur eyes (and more importantly ur mind) u simpleton.

[ShooterMcGavin]

I'm getting annoying? All i did was state my opinion and you couldn't accept another person's opinion. Go fuck yourself.
lololol, ur "opinion" on what the definition and usage of the word ironic is wrong :yes: now gtfo and diaf :goodjob:

[cornercarver78]

i don't give a fuck what theologies or philosophies believe in "what goes around comes around", that has no bearing on what the meaning of irony is and how it's used. maybe ur so ignorant that u can't even see outside of one lame example u've come up with. say i hate pets and can't stand the dog i have, now say i decide to take such dog to the humane society to give it away, wouldn't it be IRONIC if i came home and found out my gf just went out and bought a new puppy? open ur eyes (and more importantly ur mind) u simpleton.

Correct, that example would also be ironic. I think you are getting it!

[ShooterMcGavin]

ALSO be ironic? did u really just say that? after all the bullshit about how ur example was NOT ironic but was karmic or whatever? do u experience amnesia often? :screwy:

[Hulud]

so in the same spirit, lets go kill all homeless, drug addicted, and otherwise useless people to our society. How about people in prison for life? They are a huge expense to tax payers, and have already demonstrated what they will make out of their life.
now your getting it :lmao:

[cornercarver78]

Well if you were being serious I would at least have to respect that your opinion was uniform.

[Hulud]

Well if you were being serious I would at least have to respect that your opinion was uniform.
so ill take it, you are anti abortion and anti capital punishment?

[cornercarver78]

How are those issues linked? Capital punishment is the PUNISHMENT of death for a CRIME. What has a child done to justify its killing?

[Hulud]

so in the same spirit, lets go kill all homeless, drug addicted, and otherwise useless people to our society. How about people in prison for life? They are a huge expense to tax payers, and have already demonstrated what they will make out of their life.
right there

why should they live, lets save some money and shoot the ones that have life

[{X}Echo419]

lol what're u retarded? u just answered ur own question and still don't see how it's ironic that someone is willing to MURDER to stop MURDERS? wow, some ppl :screwy:

thanks :goodjob:

[4dmin]

this is lame i guess all doctors should be killed; i know many sit in and assist abortions during med school and residentcy ;)

this is a prime example of the DUMB ASS christian; its ok to kill someone who does abortions :lmfao: where you people get your justification from i will never know.

[{X}Echo419]

I believe abortions should be alowed until age 83 :2cents:

[DrivenMind]

if your far away and you use a sniper rifle and get the hell on after you shoot once, how are you caught?

Well there's these little things see, and these things are called "ballistics", "evidence", and "motive".

[DrivenMind]

No, it is accepted in most theologies, or philosophies that "what goes around comes around" if you will. Therefore It is not "ironic" that someone suffers the same wrong that they commit. That scenario is better described as "poetic justice". Again refer to my definition of irony if you are still confused.

You're and idiot for bringing that up. "What goes around comes around" yes yes, that's relevant! A doctor, who went through years of schooling to help people HOWEVER said people wanted to be helped, in this case mothers wanting abortions, should deserve to die because he's extinguishing a potential life. Forgetting the fact that an unborn child hasn't even developed genuine consciousness yet.

You people crack me up. You spend so much time pissing and moaning about people "taking life" through abortion, when there's thousands upon thousands, of lives that could be improved upon if people as a whole ever gave a shit. Personally I'd rather fight for the life of a homeless person, than fight for the life of something that only just falls within the boundaries of being "alive". I'm not saying I have something against babies, but in the early stages of development, an unborn child does not yet, posses the same qualities as a mature human being.

Granted I think third trimester abortions are pretty fucking awful, but still, we've got plenty of people on this overly human populated planet who deserve to have their quality of life improved upon, maybe we as people should put more emphasis on the value of established life, rather than potential life.

[Hulud]

You people crack me up. You spend so much time pissing and moaning about people "taking life" through abortion, when there's thousands upon thousands, of lives that could be improved upon if people as a whole ever gave a shit. Personally I'd rather fight for the life of a homeless person, than fight for the life of something that only just falls within the boundaries of being "alive". I'm not saying I have something against babies, but in the early stages of development, an unborn child does not yet, posses the same qualities as a mature human being.

Granted I think third trimester abortions are pretty fucking awful, but still, we've got plenty of people on this overly human populated planet who deserve to have their quality of life improved upon, maybe we as people should put more emphasis on the value of established life, rather than potential life.
werd, +1

[ShooterMcGavin]

repped him as well, good to see not everyone has their head so far up their ass they can't see things clearly :goodjob:

[Hulud]

ive just never agreed with the lame excuse of "i wasnt ready to have kids"

its like well maybe you shouldnt be having sex. call me crazy

but i dont care either way about abortions

[cpa ric]

I only feel sorry for the doctor because he is probably in waiting for the great judgement that all will face. He may be heading for hell; only God will decide. The bibile is clear. You should not commit murder. The killer in prison has a chance to repent and ask for forgiveness. The doctor has no such chance.

[Hulud]

I only feel sorry for the doctor because he is probably in waiting for the great judgement that all will face. He may be heading for hell; only God will decide. The bibile is clear. You should not commit murder. The killer in prison has a chance to repent and ask for forgiveness. The doctor has no such chance.
and thats one of many things i find a little hokey with organized religion

[b@d @pple]

pro choice...not pro what some fuctard christian says

[SLOWLYbtngU]

I only feel sorry for the doctor because he is probably in waiting for the great judgement that all will face. He may be heading for hell; only God will decide. The bibile is clear. You should not commit murder. The killer in prison has a chance to repent and ask for forgiveness. The doctor has no such chance.
Ok I am sorry but who is to say that??? How do you know that the Doc didnt just pray to God asking for forgiveness??? I hate people that generalize and assume. Dude, I am a Christian by faith not by title...I do as I please (freewill) trying my hardest to remain faithful to my beliefs....BUT I believe in abortion. So what? Does that make me any less a Christian? I don't believe that children should be brought into this world 1) if they are not wanted and 2)if there is no one to take care of them (foster homes.) Sure you can tell me that the mothers are murderers, but I would much rather have a woman in this world that knows she is not capable of raising a child and does something about it, than one that has a child that she passes off to her family members, or for that matter neglects, and holds some type of resentment towards. For Christ sake...No really. Psssh

Oh yeah..BTW-

The Bible says don't judge, so stop.
HAve you ever heard that the BIble is not meant for arguing? Then stop.
Have you read the book of Revelations, where it says that there will be many surprises in the end times? Yeah ok
Have you also read the part where God is talking and he says the those that called him Father Father he will vomit from his mouth and say "I do not know you?" Yeah...ok...

Look, you need to stop worrying about everyone else and worry about yourself. I am sorry but the one thing that I hate about being classified as a Christian is the fact that I am lumped in a category of people that think like you. YOu want to change something? Pray or do it...Other than that...SHUT UP!/rant

[ShooterMcGavin]

[QUOTE=SLOWLYbtngU]
HAve you ever heard that the BIble is not meant for arguing? Then stop./QUOTE]
lol, if that were the case "God" wouldn't have left sooo many things vague and unclear (and up to interpretation) and "He" certainly wouldn't have left his word to be written and spread by a bunch of boyband followers :goodjob:

[SLOWLYbtngU]

[QUOTE=SLOWLYbtngU]
HAve you ever heard that the BIble is not meant for arguing? Then stop./QUOTE]
lol, if that were the case "God" wouldn't have left sooo many things vague and unclear (and up to interpretation) and "He" certainly wouldn't have left his word to be written and spread by a bunch of boyband followers :goodjob:

Wasnt talking about u...Was talking about Jesus' number one homeboy up there... Christians, for the most part, are supposed to express their beliefs but not argue over them...I mean face it...If you truely believe something to be real, you wouldn't give any care to what others say. I say those that argue are confused and unsure. By arguing you leave it open for others to give points that, though may not be facts, but they sound a lot better than you. Did that make sense??

Like in other words, I can tell you dont believe in Christianity, but babe that is your choice. Who am I to try to change that or for that matter try to convert you to MY religion? I do not have that kind of authority in your life...So I don't bother arguing...The Bible tells me to live by faith, not go around pressuring others to believe...I just can't stand pushy Christians...

[{X}Echo419]

I just had an idea;

if you get an abortion you get spayed too. discuss :cheers:

[ShooterMcGavin]

[QUOTE=shagwAg3n]

Wasnt talking about u...Was talking about Jesus' number one homeboy up there... Christians, for the most part, are supposed to express their beliefs but not argue over them...I mean face it...If you truely believe something to be real, you wouldn't give any care to what others say. I say those that argue are confused and unsure. By arguing you leave it open for others to give points that, though may not be facts, but they sound a lot better than you. Did that make sense??

Like in other words, I can tell you dont believe in Christianity, but babe that is your choice. Who am I to try to change that or for that matter try to convert you to MY religion? I do not have that kind of authority in your life...So I don't bother arguing...The Bible tells me to live by faith, not go around pressuring others to believe...I just can't stand pushy Christians...

haha i know u weren't directing that to me, i was just being an asshole about it. BUT, while the bible doesn't ask u to go around PRESSURING others to believe, it does tell u to spread the word and do everything u can to help others "find the way". just go check out 1 Cor Ch9 :goodjob:

[{X}Echo419]

[QUOTE=SLOWLYbtngU]

haha i know u weren't directing that to me, i was just being an asshole about it. BUT, while the bible doesn't ask u to go around PRESSURING others to believe, it does tell u to spread the word and do everything u can to help others "find the way". just go check out 1 Cor Ch9 :goodjob:

indeed, that's another religon ;)

[ShooterMcGavin]

^^^:thinking: jehovah's witnesses?

[Hulud]

^^^:thinking: jehovah's witnesses?
:lmao:

[{X}Echo419]

^^^:thinking: jehovah's witnesses?
touche'

I was thinking that if "these people" knocked on the door they'd have more than a bicycle :lmfao:

[Greddypacked]

The man did wrong now he's paying the consequences. It's not his decision if he does these acts as a doctor it's the laws decision. He took the law into his own hands now he's paying for it.

[ShooterMcGavin]

touche'

I was thinking that if "these people" knocked on the door they'd have more than a bicycle :lmfao:

lol wtf bicycle??? i said jehovah's witnesses, not mormons :D

[{X}Echo419]

lol wtf bicycle??? i said jehovah's witnesses, not mormons :D
same shit :tongue1:

[The Ninja]

[QUOTE=shagwAg3n]

Wasnt talking about u...Was talking about Jesus' number one homeboy up there... Christians, for the most part, are supposed to express their beliefs but not argue over them...I mean face it...If you truely believe something to be real, you wouldn't give any care to what others say. I say those that argue are confused and unsure. By arguing you leave it open for others to give points that, though may not be facts, but they sound a lot better than you. Did that make sense??

Like in other words, I can tell you dont believe in Christianity, but babe that is your choice. Who am I to try to change that or for that matter try to convert you to MY religion? I do not have that kind of authority in your life...So I don't bother arguing...The Bible tells me to live by faith, not go around pressuring others to believe...I just can't stand pushy Christians...


I believe they argue that so they they can force their beliefs unto others. Otherwise I agree with you, I as well am pro-choice.

[Capt._Ron]

I say lets just go muslim style and if you dont like what someone believes declare a jihad on that bitch and then use your God-given right to F**k them up. ha ha. All religion will forever be messed up and insufficient b/c religion is a man made thing. Ill say one thing about that guy. He is just like any other terrorist jacked up in the head but he is ballsy.

[ShooterMcGavin]

same shit :tongue1:
lol u ignant bastard

[{X}Echo419]

lol u ignant bastard

me sry. anything past counting 4 Downs is to hard fur me 2 du.... :lmfao:

[ShooterMcGavin]

quite obviously, and we've already covered that u reposting sumvabitch :D