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dtmcnamara
01-17-2007, 05:43 PM
Ok so I get a call for Subaru today, I am approved they said the car is mine. HELL YA> I told them that I was going to come in later to talk figures and they said alright. Around 2 i got off work and went in to talk to the financial specialist. I get there and wait around 10 minuets for the specialist and when i get in there he says alright $725 a month....lol

I thought he was joking, that was like 13% interest. I asked him what was going on and he said that Wachovia, and Bank of America both declined my application and that Subaru Financing was the only place that would take me. I was like huummmmm, ok. I look at the interest rate and it is 11.9%. I tell the guy that this is ridicules and said that its kind of odd that Ford approved me by myself for 3% interest on a more expensive car and that Subaru cannot even finance me for under 7%.

The financial then started to shake his head and then surprised me with this....There is no way with your credit score that Ford financed you with that interest rate....I was like whaaa? I kind of sat there for a minute then said whatever, thats ford and we arent dealing with them, lest get back to topic.

We then started to talk about monthly payment and I was like $725 is outrageous and I WILL NOT pay that. I then told him that if he was able to lower it to under $700 that I would sign the papers TODAY. He then surprised me again with...If $25 a month will make or break you then you dont need to be looking at a STi.

He get me off guard this time. I took it almost as if the STi was too good for me...I told him that I could in fact afford the $725/month but I set a limit and $700 a month was it. He then said that this was the best he could do. I got up ad walked out.

Once i got home i call the Subaru of Gwinnett manager and told him about my experience and he said that he was sorry and that he was going to try to fix everything and would call me back shortly....its been over 3 hours now and still no call.

Also I decided to call Wachovia to see if I really got rejected. I gave the rep all my information and I was in fact approved for a loan for the car....so My question is, why did Subaru say I was declined and when i called wachovia directly they approved me?

I had the worst experience ever with Subaru of Gwinnett and recommend that if you want bad customer service when buying a new car to stay away.

I WILL NOT BUY FOR SUBARU OF GWINNETT EVER OR RECOMMEND THEM TO ANYONE. THE ONLY REASON I WILL EVER SET FOOT NEAR THE STORE WILL TO SEE SCOTT.

Fast Shadow
01-17-2007, 05:56 PM
Try Capital One, or Chase, or Citi.

If Wachovia approved you why don't you just go with them and get the car?

The reason they want to force Subaru's financing on you at 13% is they get a kickback from Subaru for getting you to do the financing through them. The higher % your APR the higher the kickback the dealer gets from Subaru.

dtmcnamara
01-17-2007, 05:58 PM
i am just going to go to Atlanta Classic Subaru in Atlanta to get a car...anyone know someone there?

TeeJay
01-17-2007, 05:59 PM
LOL @ anyone who pays 700 a month for a subaru

Echonova
01-17-2007, 06:01 PM
The reason they want to force Subaru's financing on you at 13% is they get a kickback from Subaru for getting you to do the financing through them. The higher % your APR the higher the kickback the dealer gets from Subaru.


100% correct.:goodjob:

BluesClues
01-17-2007, 06:02 PM
That's what car dealers do

Fast Shadow
01-17-2007, 06:03 PM
I went to Classic a while back and they were OK, kind of. I've heard a lot of good stuff about Troncalli Subaru up 400.

Is the limited at SoG the white one?

dtmcnamara
01-17-2007, 06:04 PM
I went to Classic a while back and they were OK, kind of. I've heard a lot of good stuff about Troncalli Subaru up 400.

Is the limited at SoG the white one?
yep the one in the show room

400hpz
01-17-2007, 06:06 PM
yeah thats how it was with my bike there were like yeah 250 a month and i was like what the hell...my apr was like 15 or 18. i hung up he called back in ten minutes with 3 percent and low payments on the zx-6r. they try to fuck you so hard with the interest i guess some people are so excited they are just like yeah whateve and sign it with out really thinking

Nemesis
01-17-2007, 06:07 PM
haha Was the manager Steve?

Nitro
01-17-2007, 06:11 PM
funny thing i was turned down there too & my only choice was to go with their financing..............$580 a month i think on a silver 04 Sti..................i was like peace-out....preciate the test drive :no:

On_Her_Face
01-17-2007, 06:12 PM
yep the one in the show room

i almost got that car last week but i ended up with a vette :goodjob:

however my exp. there was not that bad besides damon was sorta a dick, i told him i was also looking at other cars and would decide by the end of the week. he came back and said are you going to buy this car or not and i told him ha, not from you lol

good luck on gettin a sti

Nemesis
01-17-2007, 06:22 PM
i almost got that car last week but i ended up with a vette :goodjob:

however my exp. there was not that bad besides damon was sorta a dick, i told him i was also looking at other cars and would decide by the end of the week. he came back and said are you going to buy this car or not and i told him ha, not from you lol

good luck on gettin a sti



Man, not to hate, because im not a hater, and I have 0 reason to be. But you were born in 88 and you "ended up with a vette", drive a G35. Do you even have a job? Or does Dad pick up the tab for you?

ironchef
01-17-2007, 06:25 PM
Man, not to hate, because im not a hater, and I have 0 reason to be. But you were born in 88 and you "ended up with a vette", drive a G35. Do you even have a job? Or does Dad pick up the tab for you?I was about to post the exact same thing.

Nemesis
01-17-2007, 06:26 PM
I was about to post the exact same thing.


Yeah, sorry but it really got me thinking, his profile says " Im Rich Biatch". SO the question is, are YOU rich, or is your daddy rich? LOL

ironchef
01-17-2007, 06:28 PM
Yeah, sorry but it really got me thinking, his profile says " Im Rich Biatch". SO the question is, are YOU rich, or is your daddy rich? LOLAside from being an actor, sports guy, or something of the sort, I just can't fathom a way for that kid to have a g35 and now a "vette". At his age, not that its not possible, just highly unlikely.

Maniaç
01-17-2007, 06:33 PM
damn!!!! that sucks bro... i had no problems with SOG....

Jkuao
01-17-2007, 06:33 PM
What down payment and how many months is that? $725 isn't bad if you put like 14k down on a 36 month note (Assuming 36k OTD price). With a reasonable APR like 5.5(I've seen plenty of 2.9 promotions on other cars), the payment would only be $660 and you'd save ~2300 in interest. Of course if they gave you 11.9%, I doubt that is the route you decided to take since a solid down wouldn't put you in that APR on a 36k car.

If you're doing 60 months, you should ask yourself if you can afford a car like that. Because by my calculations you are financing at least 33k of a 34k car (don't count tax since it goes to the gov't) and you're guaranteed to be upside down on it since you'll pay 42k in payments minus anything you put down (this is 700/mon and not 725).

General rule for being financially reasonable is to not break 8% of your monthly gross. If $700/mon is your limit, then you should be making 105k in salary and you should be able to buy a car like that w/ like 20k down or flat out cash. Most dealers will finance up to 20% of your gross which is a stupid amount to borrow on a car. That'd put your gross at ~40-45k which is far too little to be buying a 36k car. Insurance on a car like that is likely at least 150-200/mon and you'd probably get stuck buying gap insurance as well. 900-1k on a car is ridiculous unless you're talking about a E Class or nicer.

Given you're talking payments and not OTD price, you need to examine if a car like that is really going to be utilized to its full potential on the back of the Repo man's truck. Get a blank check from Capital One (usually 1% higher than a dealer promo APR) or buy a used WRX and be happy you can afford it.

Julio
01-17-2007, 06:34 PM
hnmm... No pun to no one... But we cant sit here and blame the dealer when we dont even know the guys Credit score.

APR is based on your FICA score. you think if you walk into a dealer like that one with a 450- 520 score you going to get a 5 % interest rate? Doubt it.

It really depends on your score. If you have anything under a 650 Fica.. dont expect you apr to be that LOW. Im not saying is imposible for someone with a score uncer 650 or so to get like a 8% or something... anyways.. if your score is like 680 and above and they were trying to charge you 12 % or HIGHER.. then yes, they were rapping you up the ass.....

Also, Ford will finance anyone right now.... I mean.. they need cars in the rd at any cost.

Kyle
01-17-2007, 06:34 PM
Yeah WTF? He was born in 88? Hmmmm....and if dad is picking up the tab, why brag? You didn't earn it. Well I guess he wasn't but it seems like it when you say oh I could get this or this no big deal.

Julio
01-17-2007, 06:40 PM
General rule for being financially reasonable is to not break 8% of your monthly gross. If $700/mon is your limit, then you should be making 105k in salary and you should be able to buy a car like that w/ like 20k down or flat out cash. Most dealers will finance up to 20% of your gross which is a stupid amount to borrow on a car. That'd put your gross at ~40-45k which is far too little to be buying a 36k car. Insurance on a car like that is likely at least 150-200/mon and you'd probably get stuck buying gap insurance as well. 900-1k on a car is ridiculous unless you're talking about a E Class or nicer.



Hnm... your math went wrong somewhere... im not sure where though.... :thinking:

Jkuao
01-17-2007, 06:46 PM
hnmm... No pun to no one... But we cant sit here and blame the dealer when we dont even know the guys Credit score.

APR is based on your FICA score. you think if you walk into a dealer like that one with a 450- 520 score you going to get a 5 % interest rate? Doubt it.

It really depends on your score. If you have anything under a 650 Fica.. dont expect you apr to be that LOW. Im not saying is imposible for someone with a score uncer 650 or so to get like a 8% or something... anyways.. if your score is like 680 and above and they were trying to charge you 12 % or HIGHER.. then yes, they were rapping you up the ass.....

Also, Ford will finance anyone right now.... I mean.. they need cars in the rd at any cost.

Not to be too annoying about it but they're FICO. I work for Fair Isaac :D. FICA is what you pay for Social Security and Medicare.

A big chunk of it is FICO...another big chunk of it is how much the dealer thinks he can get away with. Ed Voyles Acura salesman thought I was in love enough w/ a TSX to pay MSRP and 7.7% despite my nearly 800 credit score. Infiniti was nice enough to give me 4.9...they would have given me 2.9% on the coupe but I had enough coupes for now. My sister-in-law has over an 800 but she fell in love w/
her IS350 and the dealer got her to pay 6.5% w/ 15k down.

RandomGuy
01-17-2007, 06:48 PM
Not to be too annoying about it but they're FICO. I work for Fair Isaac :D. FICA is what you pay for Social Security and Medicare.

LIRL

called out

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Jkuao
01-17-2007, 06:49 PM
Hnm... your math went wrong somewhere... im not sure where though.... :thinking:

Sorry that should be more clear. 8% of your monthly gross.

700/0.08 = $8750 gross monthly salary
8750 * 12 = $105,000 annual gross

700/0.20 = $3500 monthly gross
3500*12 = $42,000 annual gross

Most people don't spend 8%...avg is around 11%. There's a reason why 1 out of 4 car notes is over 60 months now.

Echonova
01-17-2007, 06:53 PM
Car dealerships = Asshats trying to seperate you from your wallet on an impulse buy. Once they start that "Are you going to buy today" shit, I'm out.

Julio
01-17-2007, 06:57 PM
Not to be too annoying about it but they're FICO. I work for Fair Isaac :D. FICA is what you pay for Social Security and Medicare.

A big chunk of it is FICO...another big chunk of it is how much the dealer thinks he can get away with. Ed Voyles Acura salesman thought I was in love enough w/ a TSX to pay MSRP and 7.7% despite my nearly 800 credit score. Infiniti was nice enough to give me 4.9...they would have given me 2.9% on the coupe but I had enough coupes for now. My sister-in-law has over an 800 but she fell in love w/
her IS350 and the dealer got her to pay 6.5% w/ 15k down.



:lmfao: My bad.. your right .. FICO score... hahahah to funny on my part..

Julio
01-17-2007, 07:04 PM
A big chunk of it is FICO...another big chunk of it is how much the dealer thinks he can get away with. Ed Voyles Acura salesman thought I was in love enough w/ a TSX to pay MSRP and 7.7% despite my nearly 800 credit score. Infiniti was nice enough to give me 4.9...they would have given me 2.9% on the coupe but I had enough coupes for now. My sister-in-law has over an 800 but she fell in love w/
her IS350 and the dealer got her to pay 6.5% w/ 15k down.


In this case.. .. Atleast we know where you stand with your credit score.... And is obvisous why you get a good APR.

But is up to the consumer to open there eyes and not be dumb enough with a 700 + Score to be happy with a 12% APR.. thats dumb...

your case is diffrent.. What I was saying is in this thread is, the person who started this thread didnt give all the specifics......

SniperJoe
01-17-2007, 07:09 PM
This is why you walk in the door with financing ready to go from a bank or someone else. Never tell the dealership this, of course.

Psycho
01-17-2007, 07:11 PM
damn!!!! that sucks bro... i had no problems with SOG....
Subaru of Gwinnett is run by crooks, every time I go there, I contemplate on buying an Evo just to spite them

Jkuao
01-17-2007, 07:12 PM
In this case.. .. Atleast we know where you stand with your credit score.... And is obvisous why you get a good APR.

But is up to the consumer to open there eyes and not be dumb enough with a 700 + Score to be happy with a 12% APR.. thats dumb...

your case is diffrent.. What I was saying is in this thread is, the person who started this thread didnt give all the specifics......

Definitely agree. The thread starter needs to either post up all the details or seriously evaluate their financial status if they want to spend that kind of money on a car. The salesman stands to possibly make as much as 12-13k in pure profit off of them all b/c they want a badass car.

$700/mon is a car payment that few people can actually afford. Someone w/ a fairly decent job at 50k shouldn't be making a commitment like that. After insurance, gas, and maintenance, it's over 1/3 of the take home income off 50k. Unless you live at home and your parents pay for everything else in your life it's not close to affordable.

Ran
01-17-2007, 07:14 PM
$700 a month? Holy sh*yat.

Julio
01-17-2007, 07:19 PM
Definitely agree. The thread starter needs to either post up all the details or seriously evaluate their financial status if they want to spend that kind of money on a car. The salesman stands to possibly make as much as 12-13k in pure profit off of them all b/c they want a badass car.

$700/mon is a car payment that few people can actually afford. Someone w/ a fairly decent job at 50k shouldn't be making a commitment like that. After insurance, gas, and maintenance, it's over 1/3 of the take home income off 50k. Unless you live at home and your parents pay for everything else in your life it's not close to affordable.


I agree.. shit, I got 2 car notes for a little bit more then that... :lmfao:

dtmcnamara
01-17-2007, 07:34 PM
hnmm... No pun to no one... But we cant sit here and blame the dealer when we dont even know the guys Credit score.

my credit score is a 668...thats why I was like why 13%

Also what I was going to do was get the car now and pay the $700 a month payments for a year. after a year I would have been able to sell my bike and my truck, total of $12-15K and refinance the car with this down. The only reason I was going to do everything with 0 down was because it was the LAST limited STi around and I wanted it. but for 13% i dont care if it was the last in the world, i cannot do it. I will just sell the bike and truck and with my tax return and my money from the car and bike put $20K ish down and get a normal STi at the end of February.

Also insurance isnt really a problem, Safeco insurance for full coverage and $500 deductibles is $75 a month. still with the parents and a b average student still, but still dont get HOPE ass hole government....

Julio
01-17-2007, 07:44 PM
my credit score is a 668...thats why I was like why 13%

Also what I was going to do was get the car now and pay the $700 a month payments for a year. after a year I would have been able to sell my bike and my truck, total of $12-15K and refinance the car with this down. The only reason I was going to do everything with 0 down was because it was the LAST limited STi around and I wanted it. but for 13% i dont care if it was the last in the world, i cannot do it. I will just sell the bike and truck and with my tax return and my money from the car and bike put $20K ish down and get a normal STi at the end of February.

Also insurance isnt really a problem, Safeco insurance for full coverage and $500 deductibles is $75 a month. still with the parents and a b average student still, but still dont get HOPE ass hole government....



gotcha.. with that Score you should be around 8 to 10 % somewhere around there.. But who knows..

yeah, they are asking to much.. fuck'm :D

dtmcnamara
01-17-2007, 08:26 PM
gotcha.. with that Score you should be around 8 to 10 % somewhere around there.. But who knows..

yeah, they are asking to much.. fuck'm :D

Atlanta Classic Subaru....is where I will get my car now, as long as there are no ass holes there. I will see how much $6000 down will move the interest down...at least thats the only way it can go, i mean damn 13% is F'n HIGH AS HELL

Brett
01-17-2007, 08:30 PM
You just said your bank approved you so why would you have to see what rates the dealer gives you at this other place tomorrow?

Lucky DAWG
01-17-2007, 08:34 PM
i got connections over at the Lexus Galleria

my vote says go there :-P
excellent customer service
u might be able to find a used subaru if ur set on it

MachNU
01-17-2007, 08:44 PM
Shit 13% dam, thats BAD!!!! i went there when i was looking for a car, and they wanted like $500 on a 04-05 STI with 6k down!!!! i just luaghed without reaction!!!!

Also on the note of the rich kid, why you guys making fun of him for having a vette, when someone else on here younger than him who drives a Porsche, and a 725i!!!! :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao:

Fast Shadow
01-17-2007, 09:11 PM
Not to be too annoying about it but they're FICO. I work for Fair Isaac :D. FICA is what you pay for Social Security and Medicare.


Do you work in the Phillips building? I work there and I saw Fair Isaac has an office, along with Equifax.

Big Baller
01-17-2007, 09:18 PM
First I got news for you the guys at Classic are dicks as well, and car salesmen are assholes.

That is all

thinkfast®
01-17-2007, 09:23 PM
whats up w/ that fool Damon @ Subaru, is he cool?

HEATON
01-17-2007, 09:30 PM
Yeah like some others said, I wold jus go to the bank get the loan..go back and be like "Give me my Dayum car!!" If that salesman gets mad and doesn't want to sale you it, jus get a lil louder and be like "So ok who wants to make some money today, bc this guy(the one that you talked too) should be fired."
If you got the money there in hand ready to buy a car I am rather positive another salesman will jump up and take it. Only thing a car salesman wants to rape more then a buyer is his competitive coworker..

Lucky DAWG
01-17-2007, 09:32 PM
First I got news for you the guys at Classic are dicks as well, and car salesmen are assholes.

That is all

my dad is in the business :2up:

dont stereotype

Lucky DAWG
01-17-2007, 09:34 PM
Yeah like some others said, I wold jus go to the bank get the loan..go back and be like "Give me my Dayum car!!" If that salesman gets mad and doesn't want to sale you it, jus get a lil louder and be like "So ok who wants to make some money today, bc this guy(the one that you talked too) should be fired."
If you got the money there in hand ready to buy a car I am rather positive another salesman will jump up and take it. Only thing a car salesman wants to rape more then a buyer is his competitive coworker..


that couldn't be more true too, as long as your co workers aren't selling you can get away with it and be safe from being cut. makes u look like less of an idiot

Footefan52
01-17-2007, 10:00 PM
Yeah I went to SoG cause I had a problem with my engine being anchored right (thought it was the pitch stop mount but it was the tranny mount) and the service guy was like wait a min.... this is an 02 and that is an EJ25. Who put this motor in? I said that Topspeed did it. When I told him that they also reflashed the ECU he asked me why I didn't get it done there and I asked him how much they would charge and I said well thats why. Right then he stopped looking at my car and told me to come back when I blew the motor and he would put another one in for me. I proceeded to tell him that he could go fuck himself and then I went over to classic (they were better but not too much).

Hektik
01-17-2007, 10:31 PM
haahahaha damn 725/month and 12% i would have slapped that mutherfucker in the face....... im glad i get 4.9 % on my cars.....

Big Baller
01-17-2007, 10:34 PM
my dad is in the business :2up:

dont stereotype

Its not a stereotype if its true.

Lucky DAWG
01-17-2007, 10:39 PM
Its not a stereotype if its true.

how is that?

how are they different from any other person in sales??? they are trying to make a living as well, blame the dealership for making them make money off of comission if you want to blame anyone.

you know its not like your only option is going to a dealership. if you want to pay the extra money to have some safety in your mind that your car is gonna run great then go to a dealership. if you're a bit more mechanical savy then try and find it through a private party and search for the best deal.

a lot of people go to dealerships, so if u wanna blame anyone blame the dealer owners who set it up like that or blame the people who buy the cars... dont blame the guy doing his job and what he is told to do or else he loses his job.

and just bc u dont like the price makes someone an asshole??? just don't buy it if you don't like the price

yea i kno... its rocket science right? :goodjob:

On_Her_Face
01-17-2007, 10:39 PM
Yeah, sorry but it really got me thinking, his profile says " Im Rich Biatch". SO the question is, are YOU rich, or is your daddy rich? LOL

hah i had that one there before i even got a car(from when i was obsessed with dave chappelle), and im no where close to rich but my parents have money.. i was going to buy the sti on my own, i think after i got done paying it off i would of paid somewhere over 38k and i ran it passed my dad n shit then he just said he'd rather buy the vette for me to drive and me save my money.

btw guys just try not to hate so much, im sure any of you would of made the same choice that i made.

not trying to be cocky in anyway shape or form

thanks

IndianStig
01-17-2007, 10:40 PM
i almost got that car last week but i ended up with a vette :goodjob:

however my exp. there was not that bad besides damon was sorta a dick, i told him i was also looking at other cars and would decide by the end of the week. he came back and said are you going to buy this car or not and i told him ha, not from you lol

good luck on gettin a sti

dude no offense.

but STI>ls2 vettes anyday :2up:

Echonova
01-17-2007, 10:47 PM
Price is not the issue, the issue is trying to screw people on jacked-up interest rates. Just because you buy from a dealer doesn't make the car anymore reliable ( if they are used). Dealers don't have to check a car of a different make as well as there own..example buying a Honda at the Ford dealer. I don't hate someone for making a living as a car saleman. Just be honest, the car will sell it self.

Lucky DAWG
01-17-2007, 10:52 PM
Price is not the issue, the issue is trying to screw people on jacked-up interest rates. Just because you buy from a dealer doesn't make the car anymore reliable ( if they are used). Dealers don't have to check a car of a different make as well as there own..example buying a Honda at the Ford dealer. I don't hate someone for making a living as a car saleman. Just be honest, the car will sell it self.

not really, especially on used cars

and yes there is a guarantee for a certain amount of miles at most places and they do maintenance on the car after they get it.

you don't know what the hell happened to a third party car, but if you know your stuff then you can find a good deal anywhere w/o going to a dealer.

fact of the matter is that not everyone in the state of georgia is on Import Atlanta or any other type of car site, most people could not tell you what a spark plug does.

a convincing dealer will sell a car if they can pick up traits from a buyer and see what kind of market they would be in for when buying a car and can maximize profits for the dealership. No one wants to walk into a lot and just randomly search through cars, it makes the process so much smoother when you have a car dealer there guiding you through it and giving you insight on cars.

the #1 thing most of u guys forget is that the majority of people look at a car as a mode of transportation and know nothing about them



and what does interest rates have to do with it??? wasn't the guy getting it from a bank??? if you are going to the dealer for a loan its prob cuz u have been rejected and have bad credit... why would they want to give u low insurnace if theres a high chance u wont pay it back if ur getting rejected elsewhere (this does not apply to the thread starter)...

my dad gets people buying cars all the time they clearly can't afford, they're not gonna give you something they don't think you can pay for. i dont blame them, its a business

2.0civic
01-17-2007, 10:54 PM
hah i had that one there before i even got a car(from when i was obsessed with dave chappelle), and im no where close to rich but my parents have money.. i was going to buy the sti on my own, i think after i got done paying it off i would of paid somewhere over 38k and i ran it passed my dad n shit then he just said he'd rather buy the vette for me to drive and me save my money.

btw guys just try not to hate so much, im sure any of you would of made the same choice that i made.

not trying to be cocky in anyway shape or form

thanks

IM NOT COCKY BUT "IM RICH BITCH" AND I CANT GET OFF MY PARENTS TITTY WHILE IM IN SCHOOL BUT I HAVE A $50K CAR...YOUR PARENTS NEED TO BE SLAPPED FOR LETTING YOU HAVE THAT

On_Her_Face
01-17-2007, 10:58 PM
IM NOT COCKY BUT "IM RICH BITCH" AND I CANT GET OFF MY PARENTS TITTY WHILE IM IN SCHOOL BUT I HAVE A $50K CAR...YOUR PARENTS NEED TO BE SLAPPED FOR LETTING YOU HAVE THAT

lol hate hate hate... like i said i did that before i even had a car... and is it even worth trying to prove anything to you?..

Echonova
01-17-2007, 11:00 PM
fact of the matter is that not everyone in the state of georgia is on Import Atlanta or any other type of car site, most people could not tell you what a spark plug does.



the #1 thing most of u guys forget is that the majority of people look at a car as a mode of transportation and know nothing about it



You're right about that:goodjob:

IndianStig
01-17-2007, 11:00 PM
man you got shit to prove....to ford. as to why you got a car made by GM when you work at the damn ford dealership. LOL

Lucky DAWG
01-17-2007, 11:03 PM
You're right about that:goodjob:

thankyou

thats the point i'm trying to make, dealers are great for the general public, you get caught up with this culture being on the forums and forget about everyone else

most people over age 30 could give a shit about tuning a car. keyword most, dont flip a shit if ur over 30 lol

but yea if ur really good with cars and knowledgeable, i wouldn't go to a dealer either, i got mine from there naturally bc i got the hookup :goodjob:

Echonova
01-17-2007, 11:07 PM
I am over 30, but mostly I'm just jealous that I can only afford 20% average tint...j/k

Hektik
01-17-2007, 11:08 PM
I dont see why people are hating on ls2 kid because his parents are wealthy. shit if i was well off and my daughter wanted a 50k dollar car i would have no prob getting it for her.... my parents gave me what they could acording to what they made and so do his.. i dont understand why people get upset that someone has somethingbetter than them becasue theyre parents could afford it....

Lucky DAWG
01-17-2007, 11:10 PM
I am over 30, but mostly I'm just jealous that I can only afford 20% average tint...j/k

its an actual option to get premium
i didn't just bullshit that to sound cool, only 30 bucks more thoughl haha

but its straight man, like i said most, you're a rare breed, be proud :cheers:



rep for u sir

Echonova
01-17-2007, 11:14 PM
:goodjob: Thanks

On_Her_Face
01-17-2007, 11:18 PM
I dont see why people are hating on ls2 kid because his parents are wealthy. shit if i was well off and my daughter wanted a 50k dollar car i would have no prob getting it for her.... my parents gave me what they could acording to what they made and so do his.. i dont understand why people get upset that someone has somethingbetter than them becasue theyre parents could afford it....

thanks.. but im sorta used to it man +1

Lucky DAWG
01-17-2007, 11:20 PM
thanks.. but im sorta used to it man +1

puttin "im rich bitch" was a bad idea i gotta admit lol

but i'm with you, u seem cool from the very little i've seen
i would do the same thing in ur situation

who the hell wouldn't???

i kno i wouldnt mind driving a vette

On_Her_Face
01-17-2007, 11:22 PM
puttin "im rich bitch" was a bad idea i gotta admit lol

but i'm with you, u seem cool from the very little i've seen
i would do the same thing in ur situation

who the hell wouldn't???

i kno i wouldnt mind driving a vette

lol ya but like i said before i just put that quote in there cause i didnt have a job at the time and i was obsessed with dave chappelle hah..and since ive been reminded i put that in my profile i changed it :goodjob:


thanks +1 for ya as well

Dudeman
01-17-2007, 11:36 PM
I dont see why people are hating on ls2 kid because his parents are wealthy. shit if i was well off and my daughter wanted a 50k dollar car i would have no prob getting it for her.... my parents gave me what they could acording to what they made and so do his.. i dont understand why people get upset that someone has somethingbetter than them becasue theyre parents could afford it....

because its irresponsible of the parents. its one thing to get them a car, but its another to get them a car that is too fast for most adults. just like all those kids that get killed or kill others in their cobras etc.. im not saying hes going to kill himself or anyone, im just saying its pretty naive of the parents. also if you dont have your kid save up for a car, how will they know the work the parents had to do to get their own everything. im glad my parents always made me pay, even the car they bought me at one point i ended up paying for. but im not hating on him for having the car, just stating my opinion.

as far as that dealership, sounds to me like theyre shitty. i would definitely go somewhere else and spend the money.

SKUNK2GUY
01-17-2007, 11:43 PM
haha haters if anybody here's parents would buy them a brand new car you know they would take it!!! i'm still jealous. and to the one who started this thread you should buy an evo instead yo!:crazy:

SKUNK2GUY
01-17-2007, 11:44 PM
honda tryed to rip me off and i worked there! dicks.

Ruststang
01-17-2007, 11:46 PM
I dont see why people are hating on ls2 kid because his parents are wealthy. shit if i was well off and my daughter wanted a 50k dollar car i would have no prob getting it for her.... my parents gave me what they could acording to what they made and so do his.. i dont understand why people get upset that someone has somethingbetter than them becasue theyre parents could afford it....

Becuase some people here have to work for everything. My dad makes six figures and he didnt give me or my brother anything when we turned 16.. When i got out of high school i got something, when my brother got out of college he got something, When i get out of college i will probly get something also. It's not saying that someones parent couldn't get them a car its saying that someones parents knew what was better for thier child to have. To make them understand the value of a dollar and not spoil thier kid making them a stronger indavidual by not getting hand outs.

Thank you

Evan

Hektik
01-18-2007, 12:11 AM
ok so the parents gave him a car so WHAT.... i mean realistically if who on hear can say that if they were 19 and theyre parents offered to give them a vette they wouldnt take it... be serious ur telling me ur dad walked up to u and said " son heres 50g go buy a car" u would be like " NO dad i need to be responsible"... pleassssse.. stop lying to urself.... listen... when my daughter gets old enough to drive i will buy her the best car that my finances will allow... wethers its 50g 0r 2k it doesnt matter.... his dad obviously isnt dumb and he made this decision. why are u worried about what his dad got him. when u need to be more concerned about what ur dad got YOU........

ironchef
01-18-2007, 12:27 AM
ok so the parents gave him a car so WHAT.... i mean realistically if who on hear can say that if they were 19 and theyre parents offered to give them a vette they wouldnt take it... be serious ur telling me ur dad walked up to u and said " son heres 50g go buy a car" u would be like " NO dad i need to be responsible"... pleassssse.. stop lying to urself.... listen... when my daughter gets old enough to drive i will buy her the best car that my finances will allow... wethers its 50g 0r 2k it doesnt matter.... his dad obviously isnt dumb and he made this decision. why are u worried about what his dad got him. when u need to be more concerned about what ur dad got YOU........No one is worried what his dad got him or didn't get him. The point is many people feel getting someone so young a 400 HP 12 second 1/4 mile $50k car is a bit silly. Not only would his dad be paying out the ass to insure that car, but in a majority of cases someone so young wouldn't be mature or experienced enough to handle a car like that. Its more of a safety and financial issue then a jealousy issue.

Hektik
01-18-2007, 12:44 AM
safety issue maybe but just because hes young doesnt mean he doesnt know how to drive what about the kid on the front of the websites bulletin..(Michael Blackwell
He is currently NOPI's youngest pro driver at the age of 18. This year, Michael has attend 3 races “St. Louis Minn, Rockingham NC, Leicester NY” and managed to placed in all three.) .... or howcome nobody says anything to youngin. he has a porsche cayman and a 745i (i think) and he runs his on a regular basis...
financial issue obviously his parents dont have "financial issues"

IndianStig
01-18-2007, 12:55 AM
His parents wanted to buy him a nice car, so fucking what?

His parents aren't dumb or anything, they wanted to give their son a nice car. Shit, the mom's got the same vette, just a convertible. If my dad said he'll give me a car, any car, shit I know i'd take it.

People should prolly stop riding his nuts, cause he's a pretty damn good driver, no wrecks nothing. And his dad knows a few things or two about cars, so he wasn't being just another rich guy saying...oh son, take whatever car you want. He knows the limits of a vette, and he knows billy can handle them.

GTScoob
01-18-2007, 01:29 AM
wow this thread took a 180.

Dudeman
01-18-2007, 01:34 AM
ROFL

Crazy Asian
01-18-2007, 02:10 AM
AHAH vette boy is in the same situation as me. Im buy the new TL Type S but my dad keeps saying save you money Ill buy you a good car dont worry. Im like o.O not this again. First they be my grad present which is the Prelude now they want to buy next car. F this Im a go behind their backs and get the TL screw them.

Seymour222
01-18-2007, 03:08 AM
I think this is some type of "steering" effect. I don't know the specifics about "steering", other than it being a tactic used by insurance companies in the auto repair market to "steer" customers to specific places to repair the vehicle. The insurance companies reap some type of benefit. In some instances I think it is illegal. I know "steering" was been a problem up north for a while.

(Im not saying you should file a lawsuit. They don't have to sell to you, and you don't have to buy from them. It sounds shitty,but thats the way it is. If you want it bad enough, you get it under their terms)

Its called "cut-throatiness". I just made a new word, and I am claiming it.

Ask S.O.G if they have a "steering" policy, I think that would be interesting to know.

Any way good luck man.

dtmcnamara
01-18-2007, 05:46 AM
You just said your bank approved you so why would you have to see what rates the dealer gives you at this other place tomorrow?

i would rather go through subaru because "generally" you get a better interest rate, but right now I think i am leaning more towards getting rid of the bike and the truck, getting my $12K and putting it all down in a month or two, that way they, Subaru or the bank, cannot say i am not serious enough and try to screw me with another high interest rate again....i can wait now that the Limited edition is gone...

Sol-Badguy
01-18-2007, 08:20 AM
Yeah, I hate when people generalize car salesmen as assholes. Granted, when I walk into the dealerships we buy from and they start jumping down my throat, I just have to say, "Sorry, I'm just here to pick up some drafts/titles."

My family owns/runs a car lot here in SW Atlanta, but I can't sell a car for shit.

I have to go to new car dealerships on a daily basis, and they're just trying to earn a living.

Remeber: Just because the salesmen dress/act like they have money, most of them don't.

ShooterMcGavin
01-18-2007, 09:43 AM
so his daddy bought him a vette :wgaf: i mean really, whats the big fucking deal? do ppl get that jealous/envious or lose sleep at nite cuz they had to work for things that just get handed out to others? seriously though, that shit happens all the time, get over it. u play with the cards u were dealt, not like anyone can choose what family or financial status they're born into.

TheGodfather
01-18-2007, 09:58 AM
Damn man sorry to hear about that. Thats some BS. I haven't bought a car from a dealership so I don't know how they work you or what the deal is, but it seems I won't be going anytime soon.

And for the guy who has the Vette. Good for you man. You probably get more ass than I did at your age. I drove an old 300zx beater haha.

2.0civic
01-18-2007, 10:07 AM
so his daddy bought him a vette :wgaf: i mean really, whats the big fucking deal? do ppl get that jealous/envious or lose sleep at nite cuz they had to work for things that just get handed out to others? seriously though, that shit happens all the time, get over it. u play with the cards u were dealt, not like anyone can choose what family or financial status they're born into.

theres a difference in things with this kid because people would rather see him in something safe than something hes not going to be able to handle plus in another thread, the way he stated things made it seem like HE paid for the car while being 17 and working 45 hours a week while being 17(not going to happen) to amke it almost seem like he was barely getting by doing it.

Thats why i have a problem with daddy buying a 50k car for a kid that will either ( im almost willing to bet) wreck it or have a speeding ticket in the next 3 months:goodjob:

On_Her_Face
01-18-2007, 12:42 PM
theres a difference in things with this kid because people would rather see him in something safe than something hes not going to be able to handle plus in another thread, the way he stated things made it seem like HE paid for the car while being 17 and working 45 hours a week while being 17(not going to happen) to amke it almost seem like he was barely getting by doing it.

Thats why i have a problem with daddy buying a 50k car for a kid that will either ( im almost willing to bet) wreck it or have a speeding ticket in the next 3 months:goodjob:

sorry i made it seem that way

R3RUN
01-18-2007, 02:47 PM
I only know about subaru of gwinnett through what my friend has experienced through them. Every time he tells me hes going to take his car there I tell him to take it someplace else. Last time he went in, for example, for a new clutch they called him before they started the work and asked him if it was ok to go ahead and do everything, they said it was going to cost around $450. He said ok, just do it. The next day they called and said something came up, they already ordered the parts and started doing the work and he owed them over $1k. If you ask me thats absurd for them to charge him for that shit without asking him if he even wanted the other repairs done.

About the thing with LS2 Kid, my dad bought my car. Im happy he did, I wouldnt have one if he didnt. He made me get a job first but then got me a car. Seems like a fair deal to me. Its not fast or anything but it gets me where I need to go and its a car that I like so im fine with it. If he offered me a corvette I would jump on it right away but it wont happen because even though I am pretty responsible when driving I, just like any teenager, do stupid shit with my car sometimes.

ShooterMcGavin
01-18-2007, 02:48 PM
theres a difference in things with this kid because people would rather see him in something safe than something hes not going to be able to handle plus in another thread, the way he stated things made it seem like HE paid for the car while being 17 and working 45 hours a week while being 17(not going to happen) to amke it almost seem like he was barely getting by doing it.

Thats why i have a problem with daddy buying a 50k car for a kid that will either ( im almost willing to bet) wreck it or have a speeding ticket in the next 3 months:goodjob:
well what he's going to be safe or unsafe in is a matter of ppl's opinion, don't think anyone can really comment unless they know him well personally.

as far as bragging or making it sound like he paid for it, that would be kinda dick. never liked unmodest ppl that boasted about what they didn't work to get.

Lucky DAWG
01-18-2007, 03:00 PM
well what he's going to be safe or unsafe in is a matter of ppl's opinion, don't think anyone can really comment unless they know him well personally.

as far as bragging or making it sound like he paid for it, that would be kinda dick. never liked unmodest ppl that boasted about what they didn't work to get.

well put

i think ur bein a lil critical b18hatch

u dont know him enough at all to know how he drives and are sterotyping that he is going to drive fast simply bc he is young.

you can be just as dangerous in a civic 4 cylinder, u can still be goin a 100 in a 35 and smash into a tree either way. difference is the vette will get up their faster... but if you're determined to be driving like a speed demon

it really won't matter what car you have...

i kno if i had a vette at that age i would be babying it and driving it fast VERY rarely bc i would want to savor the thing

The Ninja
01-18-2007, 05:29 PM
Hooray for ls2 kid. Got my dream car dude. I know to hell I'd take it. Seem real cool too, not braggin about havin the vette. I'm envious... lol. No lie. reps to you though man.

On_Her_Face
01-18-2007, 05:57 PM
Hooray for ls2 kid. Got my dream car dude. I know to hell I'd take it. Seem real cool too, not braggin about havin the vette. I'm envious... lol. No lie. reps to you though man.

ha thanks and what a thread hijack... rep back at ya