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BTLFED
04-06-2007, 10:21 AM
No worries, BTLFED, I have room for your prop valve...LoL

Hahahah! I might have time this weekend to meet up with you if you are going to be down here lol

bigdare23
04-06-2007, 11:02 AM
Oh yeah good to met ya BTLFED. Finally got a chance to put a face to SN.

BTLFED
04-06-2007, 11:12 AM
Oh yeah good to met ya BTLFED. Finally got a chance to put a face to SN.

See? I really am a psychopath in real life too. ;) :lmfao:

bigdare23
04-06-2007, 11:18 AM
See? I really am a psychopath in real life too. ;) :lmfao:




Yeah, I thought you was going to start flipping shit over and kicking bitches asses :eek:





:lmfao:

bigdare23
04-06-2007, 11:28 AM
ATTN: ALL EF DRIVERS
Serious thread people

http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?p=35609441#post35609441

EvasiveEF9
04-06-2007, 12:00 PM
See? I really am a psychopath in real life too. ;) :lmfao:
Vouch

bigdare23
04-06-2007, 12:01 PM
Vouch

go vote ^^^

EvasiveEF9
04-06-2007, 12:33 PM
go vote ^^^
Tonight. Right now I"m trying to accomplish some other stuff.

BTLFED
04-06-2007, 12:50 PM
Yeah, I thought you was going to start flipping shit over and kicking bitches asses :eek:





:lmfao:

YOU DON'T KNOW ME SON!

jmmx258
04-06-2007, 01:25 PM
Shit, I had no idea this thing was STILL going. My god lol.

EvasiveEF9
04-06-2007, 03:02 PM
YOU DON'T KNOW ME SON!
Son? :thinking: Big D must just stay REALLY really tan.

EvasiveEF9
04-06-2007, 03:04 PM
Got the emissions results back with the new ECU. Still failing.

I may have to visit mainstream for some help.

spoon91
04-06-2007, 03:28 PM
Tonight was a fucked up night for a EF squad member!!! :(

I'll let him tell the story if he's up to it.......................... :(














anyways good night guys and be safe!!!
Who are You talking about D?

EvasiveEF9
04-06-2007, 03:34 PM
Who are You talking about D?
x2

AgentEasy
04-06-2007, 04:51 PM
your mom.. lmao

EvasiveEF9
04-06-2007, 08:29 PM
...sooo...is anything going on tonight?

bigdare23
04-06-2007, 08:30 PM
YOU DON'T KNOW ME SON!


OKAY DARTH

bigdare23
04-06-2007, 08:30 PM
Son? :thinking: Big D must just stay REALLY really tan.


yeah get this dark in hell :taun:

bigdare23
04-06-2007, 08:31 PM
Who are You talking about D?


I'm not going to post details about it :no:


He'll tell you when he's ready :cry:

EvasiveEF9
04-06-2007, 08:32 PM
yeah get this dark in hell :taun:
OH SNAP!

I friggin' voted...happy?

bigdare23
04-06-2007, 08:32 PM
your mom.. lmao

say word son

EvasiveEF9
04-08-2007, 11:49 AM
Happy Easter to those who celebrate :goodjob:

D, what's up, man. I'm interested in getting those rear discs outta here, still, LoL. Hell, if you can put a reasonable amount down on it, I'll give 'em to you, and just hit me up at the next like EF meet or something. Actually...shit, wait, I'll be going down to Warner Robins area in like 3 weeks. I can bring them down your way then, if you wanted... Either way, lemmee know.

Note on my civic
I sent my dad an email last night. I said I don't care what has to be done to the car anymore, I'm tired of waiting on it. Get the car out of the shop, I'm taking it somewhere to MAKE it pass. He said he's about ready to retire on the idea as well, but he wants to try a fuel pressure regulator on it first. Either way...should be getting my car back in 2-3 weeks...hopefully less...

Anyone got an adjustable FPR laying around, anywhere? Or know where to source one cheap? I looked at ebay, but can I trust those 30$ ones?

bigdare23
04-08-2007, 12:08 PM
Happy Easter to those who celebrate :goodjob:

D, what's up, man. I'm interested in getting those rear discs outta here, still, LoL. Hell, if you can put a reasonable amount down on it, I'll give 'em to you, and just hit me up at the next like EF meet or something. Actually...shit, wait, I'll be going down to Warner Robins area in like 3 weeks. I can bring them down your way then, if you wanted... Either way, lemmee know.

Note on my civic
I sent my dad an email last night. I said I don't care what has to be done to the car anymore, I'm tired of waiting on it. Get the car out of the shop, I'm taking it somewhere to MAKE it pass. He said he's about ready to retire on the idea as well, but he wants to try a fuel pressure regulator on it first. Either way...should be getting my car back in 2-3 weeks...hopefully less...

Anyone got an adjustable FPR laying around, anywhere? Or know where to source one cheap? I looked at ebay, but can I trust those 30$ ones?


It sounds good, but I dont like owe'n people, feel me? Plus, the REX is seriously on the back burner now because I just got an apartment. So that means I'm out of some serious cash, plus I got to pay for school in the summer! Life sucks now :cry: LOL

bigdare23
04-08-2007, 12:36 PM
oh yeah joker, remember I said I was going to post pics of my girl. I'm hosting them now, so they will be up soon.

EvasiveEF9
04-08-2007, 12:37 PM
Baller status!

Well, I'll see what happens. So far there's no other interest in it. I always thought the rear would sell off before the front, but the fronts sold about two weeks ago, LoL. I'm more just concerned with having room in the basemnt for the rex in three weeks...

And damnit, I want my civ back!

EvasiveEF9
04-08-2007, 12:40 PM
oh yeah joker, remember I said I was going to post pics of my girl. I'm hosting them now, so they will be up soon.
Sweetness...

I didn't get a chance to see Amanda all weekend. Thats' sucked, but last night I did end up with just a female-o-the-night. Nothin' serious happened, though. But...oh well. Lucky SC came along for the ride. Hit up USPlay on barrett. Was a pretty good night. We need to have a shin-dig up this way...

Better yet, I'm gonna throw a party when the civ comes outta teh civic.

bigdare23
04-08-2007, 12:42 PM
Here are some pics of my baby!
{she's going to kick my ass if she finds out I'm posting pics of her on the net LOL}

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g273/bigdare23/100_0911.jpg

holding the goods for your boy
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g273/bigdare23/100_0910.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g273/bigdare23/100_0915.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g273/bigdare23/100_0918.jpg

{just a pic to prove that this is my girl and not a random internet girl LOL}
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g273/bigdare23/deeandmesmall.jpg

EvasiveEF9
04-08-2007, 12:46 PM
I'm pretty sure that anyone that it would have mattered with would have taken your word for it, LoL.

She's a looker. :goodjob: I'll leave my comments at that.

bigdare23
04-08-2007, 12:51 PM
I'm pretty sure that anyone that it would have mattered with would have taken your word for it, LoL.

She's a looker. :goodjob: I'll leave my comments at that.

Thanks Guy. Yep, this one of the few things I enjoy more than my REX. :idb:

:lmfao: She's like the nicest, sweetest, smartest person I know (that's maybe the reason why I been with her for 4yrs). She's actually the reason why I calmed my hoe'n ways :lmfao:

EvasiveEF9
04-08-2007, 01:01 PM
Thanks Guy. Yep, this one of the few things I enjoy more than my REX. :idb:

:lmfao: She's like the nicest, sweetest, smartest person I know (that's maybe the reason why I been with her for 4yrs). She's actually the reason why I calmed my hoe'n ways :lmfao:
LoL, so you're NOT gonna bring her around the IA/EF crew...right? It'd be wise...LoL

I had a girl like that. The problem was I didn't calm down til it was too late...and I lost her... *shrugs* Sometimes life happens like that... At least her and I still talk.

bigdare23
04-08-2007, 01:07 PM
LoL, so you're NOT gonna bring her around the IA/EF crew...right? It'd be wise...LoL

I had a girl like that. The problem was I didn't calm down til it was too late...and I lost her... *shrugs* Sometimes life happens like that... At least her and I still talk.


:lmfao:



I wont :no:

EvasiveEF9
04-08-2007, 01:08 PM
Where the hell has everyone been? Everyone's MIA these past couple days. I knwo it's the holiday weekend, but damn!

bigdare23
04-08-2007, 01:13 PM
take home test FTL

EvasiveEF9
04-08-2007, 01:27 PM
Another?

Curious...am I gonna be looking for a rising-rate FPR for my LS? All I'm looking for it to do is choke out some of the gas getting in the fuel rail...

revized_DX
04-08-2007, 02:12 PM
whats up guys sorry its been a while i have been busy at work and wore out when i get home so havent been on. trying to snap pics of the a6 i got but the damn camera wont keep batteries long enough for me to do it but i will before i send it to the machine shop this week. finally found some things i needed. got the wires and connects for my corners and did my 9005 headlight conversion. looks good but gotta bake them and take my glare gaurds out so i can light up the night lol. things are cool. hoping i can make the next meet i am coming with or without the motor being done. i just keep shoving oil in it and changing the filter every 3k lol. my vic is a self oil changer lol. anywho, just checking in and wanted to say happy easter to everyone! yall have a great day! will be seeing yall later!

bigdare23
04-08-2007, 10:11 PM
damn this thread been dead!

EvasiveEF9
04-08-2007, 10:29 PM
damn this thread been dead!
I guess not everyone is back from vacation, yet?

bigdare23
04-08-2007, 11:26 PM
I guess I'll whore up this thread a lil bit with something new

My Complete JDM Interior!!!

SiR Steering Wheel
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g273/bigdare23/My%20Car/DSCF0016.jpg

EF7 Seats
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g273/bigdare23/My%20Car/DSCF0014.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g273/bigdare23/My%20Car/DSCF0015.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g273/bigdare23/My%20Car/DSCF0013.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g273/bigdare23/My%20Car/DSCF0010.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g273/bigdare23/My%20Car/DSCF0001-2.jpg

Rear Seat Conversion
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g273/bigdare23/My%20Car/DSCF0012.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g273/bigdare23/My%20Car/DSCF0011.jpg

Brand New Carpet (I havent had the chance to vacuum it yet since I installed it)
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g273/bigdare23/My%20Car/DSCF0003-2.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g273/bigdare23/My%20Car/DSCF0002-1.jpg

Last But Not Least Honda Acess CR-X Floor Mats (made for RHD, but still looks good in a LHD car!)
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g273/bigdare23/My%20Car/DSCF0008-2.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g273/bigdare23/My%20Car/DSCF0009-1.jpg

I hope you enjoyed!!!

jfrolang
04-08-2007, 11:29 PM
well it's not really "complete" man. For example, you don't have the rear seatbelt buckles, you don't have speaker covers (or a whole driver's door panel) or a shift boot. You're still rocking the USDM cluster too. :D

Now if you get those pieces in, along with a proper UKDM cluster, you'll be all set. :yes:

bigdare23
04-08-2007, 11:37 PM
well it's not really "complete" man. For example, you don't have the rear seatbelt buckles, you don't have speaker covers (or a whole driver's door panel) or a shift boot. You're still rocking the USDM cluster too. :D

Now if you get those pieces in, along with a proper UKDM cluster, you'll be all set. :yes:

You know how to mess up my high dont ya!!! :lmfao:

I have the speaker covers, both panels and shift boot. It's just not installed! I'm going to install everything to make you happy :tongue1:


I'm going to get a JDM cluster too :tongue1: just so can practice dividing and multipling in my head :lmfao: Naw I'm going to install APEXi RSM so I can now how Fast I'm going.

bigdare23
04-09-2007, 05:33 AM
Hey Robert, if you ever do another valve cover this is how you should get it done!

EvasiveEF9
04-09-2007, 10:58 AM
I like that... My next B18 might have to have something along those lines...

jfrolang
04-09-2007, 11:21 AM
his valve cover should have looked like that in the first place, it goes with his car much better than white and blue.

bigdare23
04-09-2007, 03:56 PM
his valve cover should have looked like that in the first place, it goes with his car much better than white and blue.


His valve cover matches your car :lmfao:

EvasiveEF9
04-09-2007, 04:02 PM
Today is boring, again...

bigdare23
04-09-2007, 04:51 PM
yep, I gotta go soon cuz my take home test is finally due tomorrow. So I gotta stop whoring up forums and work on that (a fucken week waste on one damn test)!!! Anyways, later guys!

DrunkScotsman
04-09-2007, 04:56 PM
1 more f'n day for me!

bigdare23
04-09-2007, 06:53 PM
1 more f'n day for me!


Wanna got damn cookie



Now days they just let anyone have a b16 w/ LSD :lmfao:

DrunkScotsman
04-09-2007, 07:38 PM
ya know!

bigdare23
04-10-2007, 10:54 AM
Damn some more bad stuff just happen to another EF squad member!!! This has been a fucked up past seven days!!! Keep the faith alive everyone!!!

EvasiveEF9
04-10-2007, 10:59 AM
What happened?

See, ya'll need to be like me. Have your cars in the shop for months at a time. Or like BTL and just never bring it out Nothing can happen, then!

jfrolang
04-10-2007, 11:42 AM
So far April Sucks.

toonz
04-10-2007, 01:04 PM
What's the mutha-fucking deal kids? LOL, D my phone is off doggy :D (I gotta renew my contract because I'm not paying a $460 something bill) so I couldn't hit you up (just hit me on the home number if ya need me), I had to leave early so I can make it to my boy's funeral in Jersey:cry: so I just rested up top for the entire week and the Easter weekend because there isn't shit in the "A":no: ! I just made it back this morning jr's, so fill me in on what's been going on! :crazy: :eek: OMFG I wish had took pic's:camera: of this dude's EF9, this fucking beauty would shit all over Jeffs car:yes: :tongue1: LOL, it was so sexy, it had the front end conversion with the rhd conversion as well, with a fully built GSR (not as fast as mines tho:ninja: ) LOL, talk about a piece of art, I have my cousin in the process of sending me some pic's!!!!But I hope you all missed me:yes:

toonz
04-10-2007, 01:15 PM
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g273/bigdare23/deeandmesmall.jpg
AWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!LOL Look at D LOL with his 3 cutt's in his eyebrow tryna wild out!!! LOL Some Jay-Z lines for ya ass son!!!!

toonz
04-10-2007, 01:21 PM
WTF this thread sucks.
Because the Mutha fucking man hasn't been here for a while :yes: :D but what's up with you Jeff?

toonz
04-10-2007, 01:31 PM
The level of estrogen when Toonz comes in :)

Sorry, toonz...you're just the person that's the most fun to call out...Fuck you Bitch!! Suck my balls and die slow by my big balls choking the shit out of you :lmfao: just kidding clown:lmfao:

what you laughing at MR. "I was in Thrid gear?"


I hate to tell you, but I :toilet: on you LOL
LOL your A funny dude as well:lmfao: I was in third gear and you were in first but every other time D,tell the truth, what happened to the little 1.6 that couldn't :lmfao:

bigdare23
04-10-2007, 01:32 PM
What's the mutha-fucking deal kids? LOL, D my phone is off doggy :D (I gotta renew my contract because I'm not paying a $460 something bill) so I couldn't hit you up (just hit me on the home number if ya need me), I had to leave early so I can make it to my boy's funeral in Jersey:cry: so I just rested up top for the entire week and the Easter weekend because there isn't shit in the "A":no: ! I just made it back this morning jr's, so fill me in on what's been going on! :crazy: :eek: OMFG I wish had took pic's:camera: of this dude's EF9, this fucking beauty would shit all over Jeffs car:yes: :tongue1: LOL, it was so sexy, it had the front end conversion with the rhd conversion as well, with a fully built GSR (not as fast as mines tho:ninja: ) LOL, talk about a piece of art, I have my cousin in the process of sending me some pic's!!!!But I hope you all missed me:yes:

call me kid asap!!!

bigdare23
04-10-2007, 01:33 PM
damn you just going to go back like 15pages arent you!

toonz
04-10-2007, 01:34 PM
One more thing kids LOL the last couple of days in New York has been great, nice weather, some sunshine, and days chilling outside in shorts! WTF is up with Gerogia windy ass cold weather?

toonz
04-10-2007, 01:40 PM
call me kid asap!!!4 what?:lmfao: I don't wanna talk to you!:lmfao: Aren't I A stinker LOL

bigdare23
04-10-2007, 01:42 PM
4 waht?:lmfao: I don't wanna talk to you!:lmfao: Aren't I A stinker LOL
:2up:


take your ass back to NY

toonz
04-10-2007, 01:45 PM
This thread has been dead!!! WTF!!!!!!!!

toonz
04-10-2007, 01:47 PM
:2up:


take your ass back to NY
:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: you don't miss me son:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

bigdare23
04-10-2007, 01:49 PM
:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: you don't miss me son:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:


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toonz
04-10-2007, 01:53 PM
Oh yeah guys, N.Y. has some of the fastest cars I have seen in a while, I saw a K20 EG shit on a NSX on a HWY roll, sick isn't it? There is alot of EG and EF turbo's killing 240 turbo's, I was impressed with our fellow honda brothers! One night when I was out with my cousin, his car club, and some other street racers (in his 2nd gen prelude with a B16) LOL we were in a police chase (in Long Island N.Y.), it may sound stupid to you but it was fun to me!

toonz
04-10-2007, 01:55 PM
\\\\\\\
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Oooo'tay, I'm going back then, since I'm not wanted here!!:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

bigdare23
04-10-2007, 01:59 PM
Oh yeah guys, N.Y. has some of the fastest cars I have seen in a while, I saw a K20 EG shit on a NSX on a HWY roll, sick isn't it? There is alot of EG and EF turbo's killing 240 turbo's, I was impressed with our fellow honda brothers! One night when I was out with my cousin, his car club, and some other street racers (in his 2nd gen prelude with a B16) LOL we were in a police chase (in Long Island N.Y.), it may sound stupid to you but it was fun to me!


:gay:


:police: They gonna catch you riding dirty

toonz
04-10-2007, 02:02 PM
:gay:


:police: They gonna catch you riding dirty
I'm still here right? Okay then! :D

toonz
04-10-2007, 02:03 PM
Joker WTF is wrong with you? Your scared of the big bad ToonZ LOL

EvasiveEF9
04-10-2007, 05:37 PM
Joker WTF is wrong with you? Your scared of the big bad ToonZ LOL
Nope, had to pick up a corps buddy from Marta. I'm back...and I gotta shit like a friggin' race horse...

Halfwit
04-10-2007, 07:03 PM
:ninja:

EvasiveEF9
04-10-2007, 07:10 PM
:ninja:
Sneaky Sneaky

bigdare23
04-10-2007, 07:29 PM
Damn what a day, both toonz and halfwit posted! It's gonna snow tomorrow.

EvasiveEF9
04-10-2007, 07:55 PM
Damn what a day, both toonz and halfwit posted! It's gonna snow tomorrow.
It is..?

toonz
04-10-2007, 08:03 PM
:ninja:Halfwit ...My buddy:bigdance: :yay: :yay: :yay:

bigdare23
04-10-2007, 08:05 PM
Damn I'm still pissed about Robert's car!!!

EvasiveEF9
04-10-2007, 08:16 PM
Yeah...that's seriously some bullshit. Wonder what he's gonna do...?

toonz
04-10-2007, 08:16 PM
Damn what a day, both toonz and halfwit posted! It's gonna snow tomorrow. Me and mother nature have a little thing going on, so let me hit her up and get back to you on that one buddy ............

toonz
04-10-2007, 08:17 PM
Yeah...that's seriously some bullshit. Wonder what he's gonna do...?x2

toonz
04-10-2007, 08:19 PM
Nope, had to pick up a corps buddy from Marta. I'm back...and I gotta shit like a friggin' race horse...Don't you get smart with me Mr.:2up:

EvasiveEF9
04-10-2007, 08:21 PM
x2
Check your reps.

toonz
04-10-2007, 08:34 PM
Repped you cuz I can. Don't think this means I like you
you know you like me:D

toonz
04-10-2007, 08:38 PM
Sorry to hear Rob, I got something to make you Happy LOL

EvasiveEF9
04-10-2007, 08:41 PM
you know you like me:D
Whatever gets you chubby...

toonz
04-10-2007, 08:48 PM
Joker, you missed me didn't you? LOL!!!!!!!

EvasiveEF9
04-10-2007, 08:51 PM
Joker, you missed me didn't you? LOL!!!!!!!
You know it. Now I've got someone to keep my shit-talkin skillz up to par.

toonz
04-10-2007, 08:52 PM
You know it. Now I've got someone to keep my shit-talkin skillz up to par.
:D

EvasiveEF9
04-10-2007, 08:56 PM
Unfortunately for now, though I've gotta make an HTML photo album.

If anyone knows how to do it...feel free.

This is the project:
http://168.30.200.227/CSCI-1301C/proj3/index.html

toonz
04-10-2007, 09:00 PM
^That Sucks!!!!!!!!!!!

toonz
04-10-2007, 09:02 PM
I'm glad I give joy to your life Joker LOL that's funny to me LOL

DrunkScotsman
04-10-2007, 09:22 PM
i just spoke with the guys dad and i dont think they had insurance , we worked out a deal to where he will sign over the title to his 4 door EG , straight up , and i'll keep the hatch , strip it down and drop my b16 in a rex , shit happens but oh well!
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thinkskater
04-10-2007, 09:36 PM
god damn u won that battle.

jfrolang
04-10-2007, 09:59 PM
i just spoke with the guys dad and i dont think they had insurance , we worked out a deal to where he will sign over the title to his 4 door EG , straight up , and i'll keep the hatch , strip it down and drop my b16 in a rex , shit happens but oh well!
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20 bucks says that kid's gonna have broken legs, courtesy of dear old dad!

bigdare23
04-10-2007, 10:01 PM
20 bucks says that kid's gonna have broken legs, courtesy of dear old dad!


LOL

EvasiveEF9
04-10-2007, 10:25 PM
20 bucks says that kid's gonna have broken legs, courtesy of dear old dad!
Hope so...I know my dad would...

bigdare23
04-10-2007, 10:32 PM
Damn this thread has over 3500 post! EF FTW!!!

EvasiveEF9
04-10-2007, 10:43 PM
Cuz EF owners > all

bigdare23
04-10-2007, 10:53 PM
no cuz you and toonz post whore'n ass :lmfao:





and this too LOL

Cuz EF owners > all

EvasiveEF9
04-10-2007, 11:01 PM
I'm not

EvasiveEF9
04-10-2007, 11:02 PM
a post whore

bigdare23
04-10-2007, 11:09 PM
yes

bigdare23
04-10-2007, 11:10 PM
you

bigdare23
04-10-2007, 11:10 PM
are

EvasiveEF9
04-10-2007, 11:16 PM
Hey, buddy, look at your post count, then look at mine. And if you'll think...you'll note that I usually try to cram like 8 replies into one post. :goodjob:

bigdare23
04-10-2007, 11:18 PM
Hey, buddy, look at your post count, then look at mine. And if you'll think...you'll note that I usually try to cram like 8 replies into one post. :goodjob:

me too (most of the time) :goodjob:

bigdare23
04-10-2007, 11:19 PM
Plus I can post hoe why cuz I'm muttafuckin PREZ!!!

EvasiveEF9
04-10-2007, 11:19 PM
You just made 3 posts out of 3 words! I made 2 posts out of 4!

Face it. YOU ARE A WHORE!

bigdare23
04-10-2007, 11:20 PM
I'll fill this damn page by myself!!!

EvasiveEF9
04-10-2007, 11:20 PM
Plus I can post hoe why cuz I'm muttafuckin PREZ!!!
Just cuz you can control your dick, and you're all JDM and stuff does NOT mean you own the EF's.

:D

bigdare23
04-10-2007, 11:20 PM
I'LL TAKE OVER THIS DAMN THREAD CUZ IT MINES ANYWAY@@!!!@@@!!!!@@@

EvasiveEF9
04-10-2007, 11:22 PM
I'll fill this damn page by myself!!!
Yeah, cuz you're that much of a whore...

EvasiveEF9
04-10-2007, 11:23 PM
I'LL TAKE OVER THIS DAMN THREAD CUZ IT MINES ANYWAY@@!!!@@@!!!!@@@
Shit, you're right...

I'm gonna start my own, then, bitch! :lmfao:

Now I just gotta...find some followers... :thinking:

bigdare23
04-10-2007, 11:26 PM
Shit, you're right...

I'm gonna start my own, then, bitch! :lmfao:

Now I just gotta...find some followers... :thinking:


Start a Z-3 squad :gay: :lmfao:

bigdare23
04-10-2007, 11:27 PM
who wants some $800 rotas LOL

http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?t=114568

EvasiveEF9
04-10-2007, 11:27 PM
Start a Z-3 squad :gay: :lmfao:
You know...

At one of these meets, I'm gonna roll up in my race-crx, and my DD USDM stock-bodied civ hatch, and you're gonna be like "WOOOOOOW! I was I was Evasive-tight, too!"

bigdare23
04-10-2007, 11:27 PM
these people trip me out with their prices!!!

bigdare23
04-10-2007, 11:29 PM
You know...

At one of these meets, I'm gonna roll up in my race-crx, and my DD USDM stock-bodied civ hatch, and you're gonna be like "WOOOOOOW! I was I was Evasive-tight, too!"

if you can do both at the same time your the shit :lmfao:

bigdare23
04-10-2007, 11:29 PM
I see you down there toonz and jfro

EvasiveEF9
04-10-2007, 11:32 PM
if you can do both at the same time your the shit :lmfao:
Are you forgetting I have female friends that I don't date? This is their purpose...

bigdare23
04-10-2007, 11:36 PM
Are you forgetting I have female friends that I don't date? This is their purpose...

That would make you THE SHITer :lmfao:

EvasiveEF9
04-10-2007, 11:39 PM
That would make you THE ef'er SHIT :lmfao:
Man, you gotta work on your punctuation and grammer... No worries, I fixed it for you, tech-y.

bigdare23
04-10-2007, 11:43 PM
That would make you THE SHITer :lmfao:

^^^ like it better this way

bigdare23
04-10-2007, 11:44 PM
Oh yeah get on facebook and confirm the details!!

EvasiveEF9
04-10-2007, 11:45 PM
Oh yeah get on facebook and confirm the details!!
Hope your car isn't as slow as you are...

bigdare23
04-10-2007, 11:45 PM
Looks like my post count will be 5k tomorrow at this rate.

bigdare23
04-10-2007, 11:47 PM
Hope your car isn't as slow as you are...
HEY, I cant help that I didnt get the electric supercharger that came with a set of z-3 fenders sold :lmfao:

bigdare23
04-10-2007, 11:49 PM
anyways, joker what dd should I get during the summer ae86, da, s13, or 93+ imprezza?

EvasiveEF9
04-10-2007, 11:50 PM
Looks like my post count will be 5k tomorrow at this rate.
Get some friends...

And do your take-home test...

HEY, I cant help that I didnt get the electric supercharger that came with a set of z-3 fenders sold :lmfao:
That's cold. Be happy I want you around for your JHOT connection...

And if you keep it up...the next time you see the car will have stock fenders, LoL. I already hate them enough...but I can't do anything with the car in the shop. I'm on standby til I get it back. Should be getting the car back this weekend, though...passing or not.

bigdare23
04-10-2007, 11:51 PM
Get some friends...

And do your take-home test...

That's cold. Be happy I want you around for your JHOT connection...

And if you keep it up...the next time you see the car will have stock fenders, LoL. I already hate them enough...but I can't do anything with the car in the shop. I'm on standby til I get it back. Should be getting the car back this weekend, though...passing or not.


:cry:

bigdare23
04-10-2007, 11:52 PM
and no hook for you :tongue1:

EvasiveEF9
04-10-2007, 11:52 PM
:cry:
Shit, I went too far...

I figured being from Atlanta, and Tech and all, you'd be "hard"

Guess I'll have to go pick on someone with bigger juevos...like toonz, or something.

Where's BTLFED? I ain't seen his ass on here in a minute...

bigdare23
04-10-2007, 11:53 PM
Shit, I went too far...

I figured being from Atlanta, and Tech and all, you'd be "hard"

Guess I'll have to go pick on someone with bigger juevos...like toonz, or something.

Where's BTLFED? I ain't seen his ass on here in a minute...


got ya :bump:

EvasiveEF9
04-10-2007, 11:53 PM
and no hooker for you :tongue1:
Fixed it.

EvasiveEF9
04-10-2007, 11:54 PM
got ya :bump:
LIRL, WTF? How? On what? You're so JDM, I can't even keep up!

bigdare23
04-10-2007, 11:55 PM
LIRL, WTF? How? On what? You're so JDM, I can't even keep up!


:doh:

EvasiveEF9
04-10-2007, 11:56 PM
:doh:
Admitting defeat is the first step to rehabilitation...

Have I told you the goals of the CRx vs. the Civ?

bigdare23
04-10-2007, 11:59 PM
Admitting defeat is the first step to rehabilitation...

Have I told you the goals of the CRx vs. the Civ?


me lose tough chance!!!








hatch == DD
REX == track right?

bigdare23
04-11-2007, 12:03 AM
holla at you IAers!













































EF SQUAD FTMFW!!!

EvasiveEF9
04-11-2007, 12:06 AM
me lose tough chance!!!


hatch == DD
REX == track right?
I'm talking about more details than that...

Pulling Skunk2's off civ to go on rex.
Pulling AGX's to go on rex.
If the rear disc isn't sold by then, it'll go on rex.

Then...

Civic CRX
Motor OBD1 B18LS (NA) OBD1 MPFI D15
WHP (goal) 180+/- 130 +/-

Both 5spd cable trans.

Basically, put audio and interior back in the civic, and softer coils to make it a more comfortable ride, and set it on 16's. The CRx will take the bronze 15" heliums and a second set of 14" racing rims (14lbs/ea) with some EXTRA sticky shit and the suspension to be a track car with a gutten interior, and caged.

Yeah, it's going to take time. Dreams don't happen overnight. But it'll be fun. And I'll still get to drive both as they get built. I MIGHT...MIGHT even consider doing the civic with a JDM front now that it won't be on the track...

EvasiveEF9
04-11-2007, 12:07 AM
holla at you IAers!



EF SQUAD FTMFW!!!
Out already?

toonz
04-11-2007, 05:34 AM
..........I

toonz
04-11-2007, 05:34 AM
............AM

toonz
04-11-2007, 05:35 AM
.........NOT

toonz
04-11-2007, 05:36 AM
..........A

toonz
04-11-2007, 05:37 AM
Post Whore!

toonz
04-11-2007, 05:38 AM
Good Day EF'ers, I have alot of things to take care of today so I will get up with you kids around 1 or 2.............

EvasiveEF9
04-11-2007, 06:57 AM
Toonz is a liar!

jfrolang
04-11-2007, 11:13 AM
Let's make it an EF convoy to JHot tomorrow.

bigdare23
04-11-2007, 01:33 PM
You know I'm down!!!

bigdare23
04-11-2007, 01:35 PM
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g273/bigdare23/deeandmesmall.jpg
AWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!LOL Look at D LOL with his 3 cutt's in his eyebrow tryna wild out!!! LOL Some Jay-Z lines for ya ass son!!!!

oh yeah toonz get off my nutts!!! :2up:

bigdare23
04-11-2007, 01:54 PM
hey someone really needs to jump on this!!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JDM-Atech-Final-Speed-Wheels-Rims-for-Honda-CR-X-15x7_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ42614QQihZ001QQite mZ110108098212QQtcZphoto


Those are a really badass JDM rim for pretty cheap!

bigdare23
04-11-2007, 01:56 PM
these rims too

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110111420010&ssPageName=MERC_VI_RSCC_Pr4_PcY_BIN_Stores_IT&refitem=110108098212&itemcount=4&refwidgetloc=active_view_item&usedrule1=StoreCatToStoreCat&refwidgettype=cross_promot_widget

toonz
04-11-2007, 03:34 PM
Toonz is a liar!
I hate when people call me a Liar you fucking jerk :2up: !!!!! What was I lying about tho?

toonz
04-11-2007, 03:40 PM
oh yeah toonz get off my nutts!!! :2up:
:D

toonz
04-11-2007, 03:42 PM
Let's make it an EF convoy to JHot tomorrow.
I wish I could, but I have to get back on my grind!!!!!!!!! That's right kids that means ToonZ is going to be crazy busy for probably the next 2 months!!

toonz
04-11-2007, 03:44 PM
and I mean really crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!

EvasiveEF9
04-11-2007, 03:53 PM
I hate when people call me a Liar you fucking jerk :2up: !!!!! What was I lying about tho?
Aww, toonz, it's ok. Don't cry. We're here for you. I'll try to soften up for you...

And you're a liar about NOT being a post-whore.

and I mean really crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Here's my proof... /\ /\

toonz
04-11-2007, 03:55 PM
Oh ok, I'm a post whore like you LOL

EvasiveEF9
04-11-2007, 03:57 PM
Oh ok, I'm a post whore like you LOL
So you WERE a liar?

toonz
04-11-2007, 03:57 PM
I'm a post whore, okay, I admit it!

toonz
04-11-2007, 04:00 PM
So you WERE a liar?You play too many games kid :rolleyes:

toonz
04-11-2007, 04:02 PM
My car ran so good today!

bigdare23
04-11-2007, 04:02 PM
sure

toonz
04-11-2007, 04:06 PM
sure
Ya wanna see..................................Didn't think so chump!:taun:

toonz
04-11-2007, 04:08 PM
Why is it the smaller guys that think their the toughest LOL, 1.6 my ass!!!! 1.8 FTMFW or a 1.6 turbo Jeff FTMFW!!!!!!!!!!LOL

toonz
04-11-2007, 04:09 PM
Halfwit too FTMFW!!!!!!!!!!!!

toonz
04-11-2007, 04:13 PM
hey someone really needs to jump on this!!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JDM-Atech-Final-Speed-Wheels-Rims-for-Honda-CR-X-15x7_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ42614QQihZ001QQite mZ110108098212QQtcZphoto


Those are a really badass JDM rim for pretty cheap!
:lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: Badass!!!!

jfrolang
04-11-2007, 04:27 PM
1.6 turbo Jeff FTMFW!!!!!!!!!!LOL
Fuckin A right!

toonz
04-11-2007, 05:12 PM
LOL

toonz
04-11-2007, 05:14 PM
Welp, I gotta friend of mines coming threw so I will holla at you kids later

bigdare23
04-11-2007, 07:18 PM
Ya wanna see..................................Didn't think so chump!:taun:


wanna run from a dig?








huh?.............................................n ope




















I thought so!!! When your ready for a dig LMK(especially since I can launch my car correctly now) LSD FTMFW!!!! :lmfao:

bigdare23
04-11-2007, 07:18 PM
Fuckin A right!



FUCK TURBO CHARGE B16's!!!!

bigdare23
04-11-2007, 07:20 PM
Good news guys!!! I just got my apartment!!! ME FTMFW!!!!










{to bad for the REX since I dont have any money}

jfrolang
04-11-2007, 07:42 PM
FUCK TURBO CHARGE B16's!!!!
Whatever dude. No all motor 1.6 is going to keep up. :D

EvasiveEF9
04-11-2007, 09:05 PM
I'm still fighting how I wanna build the 1-8...

What's a good company for pistons? If I want all-motor LS...or should I just got with .030 OS LS pistons and shave the head? Or is it safe to use .030 Si/GSR pistons with the LS head?

EvasiveEF9
04-11-2007, 09:20 PM
BTW, got a new front camber kit coming for the car...my suspension will be working properly once again...just as soon as I can get my car outta the shop...

bigdare23
04-11-2007, 11:36 PM
must watch!!! (i really should be in bed)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uY5xohLlXxI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OGjAGR3AM8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8VHmyEF5Go

Later guys!!!

EvasiveEF9
04-12-2007, 07:07 AM
D...repped.

bigdare23
04-12-2007, 10:02 AM
D...repped.


thanks sorry I cant rep you back

bigdare23
04-12-2007, 10:03 AM
Whatever dude. No all motor 1.6 is going to keep up. :D

Yes it will (when you are down) :lmfao:

bigdare23
04-12-2007, 10:04 AM
I'm still fighting how I wanna build the 1-8...

What's a good company for pistons? If I want all-motor LS...or should I just got with .030 OS LS pistons and shave the head? Or is it safe to use .030 Si/GSR pistons with the LS head?

OEM p30 pistons (aka b16 pistons) :goodjob: ask toonz about them


you just can use ctr pistons

bigdare23
04-12-2007, 10:05 AM
BTW, got a new front camber kit coming for the car...my suspension will be working properly once again...just as soon as I can get my car outta the shop...


Dang trying to make you car as sticky as possible

EvasiveEF9
04-12-2007, 10:43 AM
OEM p30 pistons (aka b16 pistons) :goodjob: ask toonz about them


you just can use ctr pistons
I used to have a set of those, but I gave it off when I gave up the LSVTEC project...

Did you mean to say CAN'T use ctr?

Dang trying to make you car as sticky as possible
License Plate = BLT2HDL :goodjob:

toonz
04-12-2007, 03:37 PM
Wassup kids?

toonz
04-12-2007, 03:39 PM
hmmmm................ I dont know about vtec pistons in an all motor non-vtec setup, you will have to ask the kidd about that one!

EvasiveEF9
04-12-2007, 06:25 PM
Thanks for the advice, toonz. I just may do that.

bigdare23
04-12-2007, 09:17 PM
I used to have a set of those, but I gave it off when I gave up the LSVTEC project...

Did you mean to say CAN'T use ctr?

License Plate = BLT2HDL :goodjob:


my bee yeah cant! :goodjob:

:thinking: Did you look at that link I post up for you awhile back? Buddy had a setup making 180hp on a b18a/b with p30 pistons on H-T.

EvasiveEF9
04-12-2007, 10:12 PM
my bee yeah cant! :goodjob:

:thinking: Did you look at that link I post up for you awhile back? Buddy had a setup making 180hp on a b18a/b with p30 pistons on H-T.
That'd be the post that originally caught my attention...

toonz
04-12-2007, 10:33 PM
Is it me or are you two talking another type of language?

bigdare23
04-12-2007, 10:34 PM
Joker you need the N/A gods of H-T for help. Goto honda tech and search for LS buildups

bigdare23
04-12-2007, 10:35 PM
Is it me or are you two talking another type of language?

:thinking: thats just you!

toonz
04-12-2007, 10:35 PM
Jeff, you stay right by me, you should get my number from D so we can meet up sometimes!

bigdare23
04-12-2007, 10:36 PM
I'm so fucking JDM I got a JDM EF clock today, bad part is its no different then the USDM LOL

toonz
04-12-2007, 10:38 PM
:thinking: thats just you!:thinking: :???: Oh okay:thinking:

toonz
04-12-2007, 10:39 PM
I'm so fucking JDM I got a JDM EF clock today, bad part is its no different then the USDM LOL:lmfao: stupid!

bigdare23
04-12-2007, 10:39 PM
Jeff, you stay right by me, you should get my number from D so we can meet up sometimes!


just cut me out of the equation why do you!!! :2up:

toonz
04-12-2007, 10:42 PM
just cut me out of the equation why do you!!! :2up:awwwwww you wanna tag along jr :lmfao: you stay too far for me to just come and chill, get fucked up, and plan on driving home.

toonz
04-12-2007, 10:45 PM
I'm so fucking JDM I got a JDM EF clock today, bad part is its no different then the USDM LOL
Oh, I'm so busy, my girl gives me head while I drive from place to place to take care of some business!:lmfao: :goodjob: :yes: :tongue1: ;)

bigdare23
04-12-2007, 10:45 PM
awwwwww you wanna tag along jr :lmfao: you stay too far for me to just come and chill, get fucked up, and plan on driving home.

Anyway ya'll fucked up is different from mines :lmfao:

bigdare23
04-12-2007, 10:46 PM
Oh, I'm so busy, my girl gives me head while I drive from place to place to take care of some business!:lmfao: :goodjob: :yes: :tongue1: ;)


:blah: giving yourself a handjob between gears dont count :lmfao:

toonz
04-12-2007, 10:47 PM
Where in the world is Halfwit, Kevin, and Robert? Anyone know the status of Rob after that little fuck up he had?

bigdare23
04-12-2007, 10:47 PM
Oh, I'm so busy, my girl gives me head while I drive from place to place to take care of some business!:lmfao: :goodjob: :yes: :tongue1: ;)


I remember my 1st "head in the car" I sit a damn bump in the road damn near choke the poor girl. Cheap suspension FTW :lmfao:

bigdare23
04-12-2007, 10:49 PM
Where in the world is Halfwit, Kevin, and Robert? Anyone know the status of Rob after that little fuck up he had?

Halfwit--- I havent talked to him since we hung out at Mainstream (while u was gone)

Kevin--- I havent talked to him since the V-meet (while u was gone)

Robert--- Talked to him yesterday. He's getting a eg sedan plus a Rex. :goodjob:

toonz
04-12-2007, 10:50 PM
Anyway ya'll fucked up is different from mines :lmfao:Oh okay D, I got you on some wine coolers:lmfao:

toonz
04-12-2007, 10:51 PM
:blah: giving yourself a handjob between gears dont count :lmfao::lmfao: you got me:lmfao:

bigdare23
04-12-2007, 10:52 PM
Oh okay D, I got you on some wine coolers:lmfao:

fuck a wine cooler :gay: LOL

toonz
04-12-2007, 10:54 PM
Halfwit--- I havent talked to him since we hung out at Mainstream (while u was gone)

Kevin--- I havent talked to him since the V-meet (while u was gone)

Robert--- Talked to him yesterday. He's getting a eg sedan plus a Rex. :goodjob:You missed me didn't you D:yes:
Damn, everyone's getting a rex, I'm getting a civic hatch.........

toonz
04-12-2007, 10:55 PM
Welp, I'm going to call it a night, I'll hit you kids up later!

bigdare23
04-12-2007, 10:58 PM
You missed me didn't you D:yes:
Damn, everyone's getting a rex, I'm getting a civic hatch.........


Naw, dont forget I got Jeff (aka Yo replacement). You just miss out one a few things!

toonz
04-12-2007, 11:02 PM
I'm irreplaceable chump!

bigdare23
04-12-2007, 11:04 PM
I'm irreplaceable chump!


got ya!!! Thought your ass was going to bed!!!

jfrolang
04-12-2007, 11:06 PM
Jeff, you stay right by me, you should get my number from D so we can meet up sometimes!
Why don't you just PM it to me and don't even mention little dare. :D

BTW, you've got mail.

toonz
04-12-2007, 11:11 PM
ahahhahahahahahaha LOL

toonz
04-12-2007, 11:12 PM
LILdare23 LOL

toonz
04-12-2007, 11:13 PM
That was funny LOL

EvasiveEF9
04-12-2007, 11:15 PM
Is it me or are you two talking another type of language?
To you? Yes

We were talking about engine building. You wouldn't know about that.

toonz
04-12-2007, 11:15 PM
Got ya Jeff!

EvasiveEF9
04-12-2007, 11:16 PM
You missed me didn't you D:yes:
Damn, everyone's getting a rex, I'm getting a civic hatch.........
I've got a hatch. now I'm getting a rex. 2 cars. 1 owner. :goodjob:

toonz
04-12-2007, 11:17 PM
To you? Yes

We were talking about engine building. You wouldn't know about that.
ooooooOOOOOOOO:D :lmfao: I know about that I'm just not much of a LS, non-vtec Fan

EvasiveEF9
04-12-2007, 11:19 PM
ooooooOOOOOOOO:D :lmfao: I know about that I'm just not much of a LS, non-vtec Fan
It's a-ok. Alot of people think VTEC is a neccesity.

The rest of us just see it as a crutch.
(uh-oh...that's gonna catch the attention of many people)

So is a turbo...
(oh, snap...now I'm in trouble)

toonz
04-12-2007, 11:19 PM
I've got a hatch. now I'm getting a rex. 2 cars. 1 owner. :goodjob:
:goodjob: Got ya!

EvasiveEF9
04-12-2007, 11:20 PM
Sorry to be spacey. I'm trying to set up my myspace with a layout that I made. Everyone uses these bitch-ass layouts. I'm trying to make my own...having some issues. Feel free to look...you may like what you see...

www.myspace.com/jokertyper

(that's right, bitches...under the old name of Joker)

EvasiveEF9
04-12-2007, 11:22 PM
Sorry to be spacey. I'm trying to set up my myspace with a layout that I made. Everyone uses these bitch-ass layouts. I'm trying to make my own...having some issues. Feel free to look...you may like what you see...

www.myspace.com/jokertyper

(that's right, bitches...under the old name of Joker)
I know you JDM fans are gonna squirt your britches over the backdrop.

toonz
04-12-2007, 11:23 PM
okay!

jfrolang
04-12-2007, 11:24 PM
It's a-ok. Alot of people think VTEC is a neccesity.

The rest of us just see it as a crutch.
(uh-oh...that's gonna catch the attention of many people)

So is a turbo...
(oh, snap...now I'm in trouble)
Well you did ask for it... ;)

Can you argue why you'd rather NOT have VTEC? And I bet you'll retract that turbo statement when you get left in the exhaust fumes. :yes:

toonz
04-12-2007, 11:24 PM
I wonder who's the guest?

toonz
04-12-2007, 11:25 PM
My boy Jeff is on a role tonight LOL get'em Jeff!

toonz
04-12-2007, 11:26 PM
I know he dosn't want to be behind my fumes LOL

toonz
04-12-2007, 11:27 PM
I'm now going to sleep so I will hit you kids up in the morning!

jfrolang
04-12-2007, 11:28 PM
I'm now going to sleep so I will hit you kids up in the morning!
Later T

EvasiveEF9
04-12-2007, 11:30 PM
Well you did ask for it... ;)

Can you argue why you'd rather NOT have VTEC? And I bet you'll retract that turbo statement when you get left in the exhaust fumes. :yes:
VTEC = Because EVERYONE'S doing it. Plus it seems to be more expensive. I don't know, I'd just rather brag to have a powerhouse without vtec.

Turbo? I can knock it cuz I haven't tried it. Turbo is one of those things you have to buy it all it once, it seems. Building NA, I can bust the block apart, bore it, ring it, assemble it all back and enjoy it while saving for a head-job. Plus...everyone's doing it. I wanna build a powerhouse without braggin about a turbo.

bigdare23
04-12-2007, 11:41 PM
Why don't you just PM it to me and don't even mention little dare. :D

BTW, you've got mail.

It's BIG MUTTAFUCKKEN DARE BITCHES!!! :goodjob:

bigdare23
04-12-2007, 11:42 PM
LILdare23 LOL


type that again I'll break your fingers :lmfao:

bigdare23
04-12-2007, 11:43 PM
To you? Yes

We were talking about engine building. You wouldn't know about that.


:lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao:

bigdare23
04-12-2007, 11:45 PM
Well you did ask for it... ;)

Can you argue why you'd rather NOT have VTEC? And I bet you'll retract that turbo statement when you get left in the exhaust fumes. :yes:



Turbo :gay: Built N/A's means your penis is big :goodjob: :lmfao:

bigdare23
04-12-2007, 11:45 PM
I know he dosn't want to be behind my fumes LOL


:lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao:

EvasiveEF9
04-12-2007, 11:55 PM
G'damn myspace and not wanting to cooperate. Page is looking good, I jsut can't get the borders!

jfrolang
04-13-2007, 12:02 AM
VTEC = Because EVERYONE'S doing it. Plus it seems to be more expensive. I don't know, I'd just rather brag to have a powerhouse without vtec.
OK, but going all-motor without VTEC means you're sacrificing streetability for power. HP is always highest above 5252 RPM (through the formula HP=torque X RPM/5252) and cams that are optimized for those speeds are terrible for low speed maneuvers. VTEC allows you to use multiple cam profiles, for different engine speeds. My point is that there are no pro/con arguments for VTEC, it's all pros. :goodjob:



Turbo? I can knock it cuz I haven't tried it. Turbo is one of those things you have to buy it all it once, it seems. Building NA, I can bust the block apart, bore it, ring it, assemble it all back and enjoy it while saving for a head-job. Plus...everyone's doing it. I wanna build a powerhouse without braggin about a turbo.
I think you have it backwards... you can't knock it if you haven't tried it. Since you're obviously interested in making big power (like all of us) I'll simplify it: To make more power you have to burn more fuel. To burn more fuel without getting a rich mixture, you have to get more air. Turbos are able to push a lot more air into the cylinders than earth's atmospheric pressure can. On the overall, building an engine all motor gives you a power ceiling of approximately 150 hp per liter. This is because no matter how efficient you make the intake stroke at filling the cylinders, you can't get more air in there than the displacement of the chamber. Truly, there is no replacement for displacement.

With forced induction, you're artificially increasing the volume of the intake charge by compressing it, thus allowing far more fuel without going rich, and far more power. The downside is that physics demands more heat with compression (energy in = energy out), and heat robs efficiency and promotes pre-ignition/detonation. The solution is to cool the air with intercoolers, water injection, etc. The cost of boost vs. N/A is a wash when both are done right, but turbo always makes more power on an equal displacement.

Turbos do have a 'wait time' on the power delivery via the spool-up action, but they're far better suited to daily driving as the low end torque is much improved (where low end = under 5k). All-motor builds inevitably bias the engine toward high-RPM operation, sacrificing low-end output.

Superchargers solve the turbo lag issue, but are limited by the parasitic losses on the drivetrain, and at the top end by the belt drive. Turbos are allowed to spin freely at high RPM (with compressor wheels spinning in excess of 140,000 RPM, giving that signature sound) and are able to push more air where it counts.

Since I'm on the subject, nitrous oxide works by injecting a shit ton of oxygen (since nitrous is two thirds oxygen), which allows more fuel to burn.

So anyway, my opinion is that turbocharging is the best compromise of the available options when you want to make big power for mixed use driving. Now, a highly tuned all motor build, with proper gear ratios matched to a road circuit, is certainly capable of being fastest for that situation vs. the other guys. I just see all motor as being too focused, too many eggs in one basket if you will.

:cheers:

EvasiveEF9
04-13-2007, 12:15 AM
Holy shit that's alot to read, and I"m too tired. I'll read it tomorrow.

One part I skimmed was "big power". Not looking for tremendous amounts. 200whp +/- 20 is my goal. Hell, I'd probably be satisfied with 160 at the wheels.

jfrolang
04-13-2007, 12:37 AM
big power is relative. I don't necessarily mean max power. But in that case, Turbo + nitrous is hard to beat.

slow_hatch
04-13-2007, 12:38 AM
Holy shit that's alot to read, and I"m too tired. I'll read it tomorrow.

One part I skimmed was "big power". Not looking for tremendous amounts. 200whp +/- 20 is my goal. Hell, I'd probably be satisfied with 160 at the wheels.

I've done lots of research on all motor LS in the past.(I've had my LS motor for over 4 yrs now) And I came to the conclusion that the only thing you get out of building an all motor non vtec motor, is that it is more unique. There is a reason for that though, you spend alot of money for not alot of power. 200HP non vtec is really pushing the limits.(i've seen one or two b20s make this) But for the money you put into it, you could have a mild VTEC build making more power. That is why VTEC is so popular, b/c it works :goodjob:

toonz
04-13-2007, 06:54 AM
OK, but going all-motor without VTEC means you're sacrificing streetability for power. HP is always highest above 5252 RPM (through the formula HP=torque X RPM/5252) and cams that are optimized for those speeds are terrible for low speed maneuvers. VTEC allows you to use multiple cam profiles, for different engine speeds. My point is that there are no pro/con arguments for VTEC, it's all pros. :goodjob:



I think you have it backwards... you can't knock it if you haven't tried it. Since you're obviously interested in making big power (like all of us) I'll simplify it: To make more power you have to burn more fuel. To burn more fuel without getting a rich mixture, you have to get more air. Turbos are able to push a lot more air into the cylinders than earth's atmospheric pressure can. On the overall, building an engine all motor gives you a power ceiling of approximately 150 hp per liter. This is because no matter how efficient you make the intake stroke at filling the cylinders, you can't get more air in there than the displacement of the chamber. Truly, there is no replacement for displacement.

With forced induction, you're artificially increasing the volume of the intake charge by compressing it, thus allowing far more fuel without going rich, and far more power. The downside is that physics demands more heat with compression (energy in = energy out), and heat robs efficiency and promotes pre-ignition/detonation. The solution is to cool the air with intercoolers, water injection, etc. The cost of boost vs. N/A is a wash when both are done right, but turbo always makes more power on an equal displacement.

Turbos do have a 'wait time' on the power delivery via the spool-up action, but they're far better suited to daily driving as the low end torque is much improved (where low end = under 5k). All-motor builds inevitably bias the engine toward high-RPM operation, sacrificing low-end output.

Superchargers solve the turbo lag issue, but are limited by the parasitic losses on the drivetrain, and at the top end by the belt drive. Turbos are allowed to spin freely at high RPM (with compressor wheels spinning in excess of 140,000 RPM, giving that signature sound) and are able to push more air where it counts.

Since I'm on the subject, nitrous oxide works by injecting a shit ton of oxygen (since nitrous is two thirds oxygen), which allows more fuel to burn.

So anyway, my opinion is that turbocharging is the best compromise of the available options when you want to make big power for mixed use driving. Now, a highly tuned all motor build, with proper gear ratios matched to a road circuit, is certainly capable of being fastest for that situation vs. the other guys. I just see all motor as being too focused, too many eggs in one basket if you will.

:cheers:
^ Yeah!!!!:rolleyes:

toonz
04-13-2007, 06:55 AM
LiLDare23 LOL

bigdare23
04-13-2007, 07:22 AM
LiLDare23 LOL


reach for hammer

bigdare23
04-13-2007, 07:23 AM
robert any updates?

EvasiveEF9
04-13-2007, 07:37 AM
Hmm...I've got two of 'em...I may build one for LSVTEC...see how it goes...if I don't like it, I'll build the second one, then sell off the LSVTEC when the second motor is done.

bigdare23
04-13-2007, 07:47 AM
Hmm...I've got two of 'em...I may build one for LSVTEC...see how it goes...if I don't like it, I'll build the second one, then sell off the LSVTEC when the second motor is done.

wasnt that the plan at 1st LOL


your going in circles!!!


LS/Vtec >>> then gsr so I doubt you wont like it.

EvasiveEF9
04-13-2007, 07:51 AM
wasnt that the plan at 1st LOL


your going in circles!!!


LS/Vtec >>> then gsr so I doubt you wont like it.
I've never been one to drive in a straight line...why would I wanna plan that way? LoL

Yes, LSVTEC was the original plan 2 years ago. May have to resurrect my plans... We'll see. I'll probably sit down and price how much it would be to build each one. Good news is I already ahve a general idea of how to build it since I started it back a while ago...

The plan AFTER I sold the LSVTEC stuff for the LS motor was to put the LS in until the LSVTEC was built and ready...so TECHNICALLY I just never came off the first plan...LoL

EvasiveEF9
04-13-2007, 07:52 AM
Besides...it keeps ya'll on your toes with what I'm going to do. Keeps ya'll like "Oh noz! He's building NA!" and then like "OH NO! TURBO!?!?" and then like "OH NOOOO! HE'S NA!" and then like "OMG, Z3 FENDERS, I'M TOAST!" and then liek "Oh, no, he's going JDM!?!?" and then like "OH SHIT. HE'S NAKED! And has chicks!"

Keeps ya'll alert.

bigdare23
04-13-2007, 07:54 AM
Besides...it keeps ya'll on your toes with what I'm going to do. Keeps ya'll like "Oh noz! He's building NA!" and then like "OH NO! TURBO!?!?" and then like "OH NOOOO! HE'S NA!" and then like "OMG, Z3 FENDERS, I'M TOAST!" and then liek "Oh, no, he's going JDM!?!?" and then like "OH SHIT. HE'S NAKED! And has chicks!"

Keeps ya'll alert.


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