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kain86
01-09-2007, 04:47 PM
My other side Project is to Make a 300whp+ turbo d15b7 will one of the sponsors give me a price on the following;

1.) new sleeves
2.) stroker Kit or (Custom Rods, Pistons, and a Micro-polish and knives-edged crank)
3.) Turbo kit....
4.) Injectors and what size
5.) Valve Train
6.) Custom Cam
7.) ignition system.
8.) whatever else would be needed to make 300+whp out of a d15b7.

please help..

dserieskid
01-09-2007, 06:00 PM
I have a d15b7 fully rebuilt engine it was like that when i bought it im getting ready to boost mine i was going to trade or sell it but changed my mind.

SOHC97
01-09-2007, 08:11 PM
i've started to order my turbo parts for d16y7.with no internal work i was told i can make around 200whp. but down the line i will do some internal work.

Halfwit
01-09-2007, 10:45 PM
i have a 285 whp d series.....

§treet_§peed
01-09-2007, 11:24 PM
^^:werd:

bernard
01-09-2007, 11:26 PM
dude u can easily make the 200 hp with the motor u got man. Im on a z6 right now and im at 283 to the wheels. And i still need to get a cam and bigger injectors just little stuff. My motor well bottom end is built and head ported and polished. Well all in all u can do it man.

Reaper-D
01-10-2007, 12:59 AM
sweet, i'm working on building a d17a2, nice to see some D people:goodjob:

typerek
01-10-2007, 01:10 AM
single turbo ftw!!!!!!!!! i've planning the build forever but waiting for another ek to do it in. mainstream told me on a stock siongle vtec with their kit will push 250

SOHC97
01-10-2007, 01:35 AM
main stream does good dam work but their kits run about $3500.00. i'm doing my own install and i'll have them tune it for me. i like working on cars, it runs in my blood.you guys can check out d-series.org, they give good info and may answer some of ur questions.

Halfwit
01-10-2007, 06:16 AM
lol i like working on my car too? i jsut dont have time to source parts ect.

www.turbod16.com = lots of info

Vteckidd
01-10-2007, 09:33 AM
My other side Project is to Make a 300whp+ turbo d15b7 will one of the sponsors give me a price on the following;

1.) new sleeves
2.) stroker Kit or (Custom Rods, Pistons, and a Micro-polish and knives-edged crank)
3.) Turbo kit....
4.) Injectors and what size
5.) Valve Train
6.) Custom Cam
7.) ignition system.
8.) whatever else would be needed to make 300+whp out of a d15b7.

please help..

$15,000

why would you knife edge a crank, why would you run a stroker kit?

seems like your magazine building, throwing a bunch of fancy words around. what you just listed is going to cost you at least $15000 for custom everything.

do some research on what it takes to build a 300whp turbo motor. not trying to be a dick, but be realistic

TURBOD16.com

kain86
01-10-2007, 11:57 AM
thanx mr. kidd i did know about turbod16.com very useful.. but i want mine to be more motor and not so much turbo.....but i want to know if there are sleeves for my motor that can stand about 40 psi..... i know thats high but i'd rather have a strong block than a blown block... i'm also going to post-up a few options for a d15b7....

kain86
01-10-2007, 02:12 PM
exospeed stage 2 d16a6/d15b7 camshaft = $200+
crower rods = $700+
SRP high comp pistons 9.8:1 (i think?) = $400+
supertech valvetrain $500+
skunk2 65mm-70mm throttle body = $350+
skunk2 intake manifold $300+
AEM High volume fuel rail = $160+
AEM FPR = $200+
AEM Cam Gear = $130+
Hopefully i can find more parts.......still looking for the price on sleeves that can handle over 40 psi.

Vteckidd
01-10-2007, 03:50 PM
GE sleeves run $1000

2.0civic
01-10-2007, 03:51 PM
dude u can easily make the 200 hp with the motor u got man. Im on a z6 right now and im at 283 to the wheels. And i still need to get a cam and bigger injectors just little stuff. My motor well bottom end is built and head ported and polished. Well all in all u can do it man.

PROOF? DYNO SLIPS? SOUNDS LIKE HALFWITS NUMBERS YOU COPIED SOMEWHERE...

2.0civic
01-10-2007, 03:53 PM
thanx mr. kidd i did know about turbod16.com very useful.. but i want mine to be more motor and not so much turbo.....but i want to know if there are sleeves for my motor that can stand about 40 psi..... i know thats high but i'd rather have a strong block than a blown block... i'm also going to post-up a few options for a d15b7....

MORE MOTOR AND NOT SO MUCH TURBO BUT 40PSI?? YOU ARE A DUMBASS...PLAIN AND SIMPLE....THATS A SHIT TON OF TURBO...

Benefit
01-10-2007, 06:25 PM
lol

kain86
01-10-2007, 10:56 PM
im not planning on running 40 psi... i just want very strong sleeves....so i don't even stand a chance of cracking the block.... and if anything, i was going to run about 20-27psi...... pending how high i want to go...

silversol
01-11-2007, 12:47 AM
im not planning on running 40 psi... i just want very strong sleeves....so i don't even stand a chance of cracking the block.... and if anything, i was going to run about 20-27psi...... pending how high i want to go...
Thats still a lot of turbo :lmfao:

LS2ner
01-11-2007, 01:17 AM
Definitly sounds like magazine building...

kain86
01-11-2007, 01:54 AM
alright if everyone is goinn to be so judgemental then give me some suggestions on parts and turbo (psi, ect.)

Halfwit
01-11-2007, 06:54 AM
alright if everyone is goinn to be so judgemental then give me some suggestions on parts and turbo (psi, ect.)

it will be easy to help, but i need to know things

1: are u doint it all at one time, or do u want to do a basic build, then do more?
2: what is your budget?
3: are buying all new parts, or try to jsut get stuff here and there for a deal?

99SI
01-11-2007, 09:39 AM
Search for Halfwit's name on here. I am sure once you fiilter through all of his bullshit whore posts ;) you will be able to find something on his D turbo build. Copy that and you'll be OK. Even if you want to go with a sleeved block just substitute that where his uses a stock block and you will meet your power goals.

Halfwit
01-11-2007, 09:42 AM
he would never be able to search through 12,000 posts..lol

so igot it for him.

ENGINE BUILD, TURBO KIT AND ALL FABRICATION DONE BY MAINSTREAM PERFORMANCE/Turbo Dave Fabrications
D16z6 block STOCK SLEEVES
CP Pistons
Eagle Rods
block guard
Y8 SOHC VTEC HEAD and INTAKE MANIFOLD
LS TB
Stock head IE stock springs, ret, valves
Balanced bottom end, bore, hone, deck, hottank
ACL bearings
all the new OEM stuff (oil pump, timing belt, water pump, etc)
TDF D series bottom mount short runner Turbo manifold
Turbonetics T3/T4 57 Trim
MSPi Intercooler kit, piping, DP , Exhuast
EVO 8 560cc injectors
Boomslang Conversion harness OBD0-OBD1
Digitalboxtuning.com ECU (p28 chipped with Chrome)
ZC Tranny with equal length axles
Competition Clutch Stage 4 with upgraded PP
Stock flywheel

285 whp.

SoLJames95
01-11-2007, 10:18 AM
But you got to think your running a d15b7.. No offense, I run that in my car. But just do a 1.6 if you want that kinda of power easier. My opion; it is also a better bottom end in the 1.6. Correct me if im wrong. D15b7 I think is about 30 less torque then a D16y7. Although ether way. That shit is going to be fun no matter what.:D I know.. Mainstream did my first d series. d15 non vtech. 188hp, 183trq at 10 pounds.(BLOWN) Mainstream did my second d series Jdm D15 Vtech. 210hp, 194trq at 7 pounds. Still alive!:yes: and FOR SALE!!!

miro_gt
01-11-2007, 10:41 AM
dang ... I guess I've gotta explain some stuff about the D again .


for 300WHP D you need:

hone the block - 100
vitara pistons - 130
Eagle rods - 300
OEM bearings - 80
ARP headstuds - 100
new OEM headgasket - 50

alum.radiator - 250
clutch - 450
custom exhaust, 2.5" or bigger, no cat - 400

-T3/T04 50 trim. The 57 one is a bit bigger. And .63 exhaust housing to support up to 30psi of boost - 500
-nice manifold - about 500
-downpipe - 150
-38mm Tial wastegate - 250 or so
-FMIC - 250
-charge pipes - 100
-BOV - 150
-OBD1 ECU and conv. harness, chipped with Crome - 200
-tunning - varies a lot. If you're good, borrow a wideband from a friend and do it yourself .. or buy a wideband - 300. If not, than pay ~500 for the dyno tune
-injectors - nice RCs are 300, cheap DSMs with resistor box are 50, precisions are 200 or so as well
-map sensor - 30
-boost gauge - 60

Total: ~4700 , including nice RC injectors and 500 for the tune

and that's close to 400WHP setup. But most likely 350WHP or so

you don't need Golden Eagle sleeves, aftermarket intake manifold, head porting, integra TB and such ... Throw in a Zex cam if you insist, it's like 250, and aftermarket springs if you with to rev up to 8K RPM

and yes, go to www.turbod16.com (http://www.turbod16.com/) to see what's going on with the D series

Miro

Vteckidd
01-11-2007, 10:57 AM
dang ... I guess I've gotta explain some stuff about the D again .


for 300WHP D you need:

hone the block - 100
vitara pistons - 130
Eagle rods - 300
OEM bearings - 80
ARP headstuds - 100
new OEM headgasket - 50

alum.radiator - 250
clutch - 450
custom exhaust, 2.5" or bigger, no cat - 400

-T3/T04 50 trim. The 57 one is a bit bigger. And .63 exhaust housing to support up to 30psi of boost - 500
-nice manifold - about 500
-downpipe - 150
-38mm Tial wastegate - 250 or so
-FMIC - 250
-charge pipes - 100
-BOV - 150
-OBD1 ECU and conv. harness, chipped with Crome - 200
-tunning - varies a lot. If you're good, borrow a wideband from a friend and do it yourself .. or buy a wideband - 300. If not, than pay ~500 for the dyno tune
-injectors - nice RCs are 300, cheap DSMs with resistor box are 50, precisions are 200 or so as well
-map sensor - 30
-boost gauge - 60

Total: ~4700 , including nice RC injectors and 500 for the tune

and that's close to 400WHP setup. But most likely 350WHP or so

you don't need Golden Eagle sleeves, aftermarket intake manifold, head porting, integra TB and such ... Throw in a Zex cam if you insist, it's like 250, and aftermarket springs if you with to rev up to 8K RPM

and yes, go to www.turbod16.com (http://www.turbod16.com/) to see what's going on with the D series

Miro

if thats true, then you should have built halfwits.

saying that setup is good for 400whp is not true im sorry. Ive said it 100 times, the TURBO D world is INCONSISTENT. There are guys with bone stock motors making 300-330whp, then there are guys with BUILT motors, sleeved blocks, and headwork, barely making 320whp.

Halfwits made 285whp @18psi on a stock head with the turbo you listed and a TDF manifold.

400whp is nearly impossible to hith without an intake manifold, headwork

99SI
01-11-2007, 12:12 PM
This is the best way to learn. Get something started and have people argue over which is the best. Listen to both sides, filter through the bullshit. Go with your gut and listen to what people have to say, THEN do your research on what they are saying and validify it. That is when you will truely be happy and confident in what you are doing. Good luck

SoLJames95
01-11-2007, 01:48 PM
Take a chance blow somethin up. Its only a Dseries. How expensive could it be.

teamjdm4dr
01-11-2007, 10:01 PM
mine was pertty much stock and it was pushing a little over 200hp with a T3-T04 E turbo and i hade not even an inch of clearace from the turbo and the intercooler, so i took out the A/C and power steering to make a little more room.. now on that motor the tranny cracked before the motor even blew. that was weird. idk even how it cracked.. but now i got another D-series motor that im putting in.. and im just going to build that up little at a time

SoLJames95
01-12-2007, 01:13 AM
I have A/C and clearance... Making the same power with a T25..:taun:

miro_gt
01-12-2007, 10:08 AM
if thats true, then you should have built halfwits.

saying that setup is good for 400whp is not true im sorry. Ive said it 100 times, the TURBO D world is INCONSISTENT. There are guys with bone stock motors making 300-330whp, then there are guys with BUILT motors, sleeved blocks, and headwork, barely making 320whp.

Halfwits made 285whp @18psi on a stock head with the turbo you listed and a TDF manifold.

400whp is nearly impossible to hith without an intake manifold, headwork


there are guys with Turbo Ds that don't have a clue about what's going on, and they make not much power. Then, there are guys who know some stuff, and make tons of power with cheap setups.

I don't know Halfwits car, but if he made 285@18psi, what do you think he would make at 30psi ?? I'm gonna guess first - for 18psi he gained ~180WHP, so that's like 10WHP/psi ... so that would be a total of 405WHP @30psi, give or take 15 due to the IATs

400whp is nearly impossible without aftermarket IM and head work, but yet it always pops up someone that has done it, and his/her car lasted a lot more than 1 hour: http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1719843

Vteckidd
01-12-2007, 10:13 AM
there are guys with Turbo Ds that don't have a clue about what's going on, and they make not much power. Then, there are guys who know some stuff, and make tons of power with cheap setups.

I don't know Halfwits car, but if he made 285@18psi, what do you think he would make at 30psi ?? I'm gonna guess first - for 18psi he gained ~180WHP, so that's like 10WHP/psi ... so that would be a total of 405WHP @30psi, give or take 15 due to the IATs

400whp is nearly impossible without aftermarket IM and head work, but yet it always pops up someone that has done it, and his/her car lasted a lot more than 1 hour: http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1719843
ive seen that thread and i dont believe it when he lists:

stock z6 head
stock z6 intake manifold

At 30psi on stock sleeves, bad things happen. So hes saying that with a more restrictive manifold than halfwits, and only 5 more psi he made 115whp .

i dont buy that sorry

miro_gt
01-12-2007, 10:22 AM
;)


he sold the car to another member of .turbod16.com, and the other guy has a fun time driving it
I believe that the stock D sleeves are very strong, and would hold up above 400WHP. The problem is that those can't witstand even a small detonation, which cracks them up even at 150WHP power range ...

there are too many guys with over 400WHP on the D-series stock sleeves :D and I'm gonna be one of them next year most likely :crazy: Ehh, if only I had time to do work on my car ....

kain86
01-12-2007, 12:08 PM
what is a FMIC????? Does anyone have a d16z6 that they are willing to sell for cheap or donate..

kain86
01-12-2007, 12:09 PM
wait FMIC is independent fuel management right?

99SI
01-12-2007, 12:44 PM
lol

99SI
01-12-2007, 12:44 PM
Foot n your Mothers Icky Cunt

Vteckidd
01-12-2007, 12:51 PM
Front MOUNT INTERCOOLER

Vteckidd
01-12-2007, 12:54 PM
;)


he sold the car to another member of .turbod16.com, and the other guy has a fun time driving it
I believe that the stock D sleeves are very strong, and would hold up above 400WHP. The problem is that those can't witstand even a small detonation, which cracks them up even at 150WHP power range ...

there are too many guys with over 400WHP on the D-series stock sleeves :D and I'm gonna be one of them next year most likely :crazy: Ehh, if only I had time to do work on my car ....
sorry if im coming off combative, im not meaning to, just discussin my personal experience.

When FULL-RACE PINKs car made 476whp (highest SOHC turbo i know of) they did it on stock sleeves. however they had:

CUstom camshaft
GT30R
Full-Race Manifold
Headgames ported $3000 head
custom intake manifold
springs, ret oversize valves
rods an pistons.

if they could only get 47xwhp out of it, with an UNLIMITED budget, i dont see a STOCK head an intake making 400whp, sorry. with Halfwits, we learned that the head really hits a wall above 7000rpms. I was hoping for 300whp on pump which i think is still attainable, but i dont see his stock head making 400whp and i wont push stock sleeves to above 20psi, MAYBE 22-23 with a shit ton of timing pulled out.

Vteckidd
01-12-2007, 01:01 PM
http://www.locashracing.com/evans-tuning/FR-Pinks.JPG

im sorry they made only 460whp

B18c1Turboed
01-12-2007, 01:29 PM
If you build the car yourself there is noway it will cost anywhere near 15k. I am assuming you have the motor already and dont need too buy them.

YOu can price everything out
GE sleeves are 750.00 plus shipping 100.00 thru www.camp1320.com (http://www.camp1320.com/)
Pistons range 450-500 Cp but you can get Je for like 300
Eagle Rods are 280.00
Headgasket 90.00
ARP headstuds 100.00
Oil pump@ water pump 160.00
timing belt 50.00
That bottom ENd 1890

Ok now the head
Supertech Valves,springs @ retainers 550.00
Labor installing them going 1mm over 400
Intake manifold 280.00
total 1230

Now as far as the turbo kit it just depends on how crazy you wanna go,
Usally we can pieces a whole turbo kit toghter for 2500-3000 that includes hondata,it just really depends how crazy you wanna go with that.

Not all head need to be port and polished, altough i dont know much about D series i know B series will hold out just fine. And if you look at the full race car, the built motor that did 460 blew up the night before the race and they installed a stock motor, so when he was on pinks that was on a stock D series motor, not the built one!

And if you feel like spending 15k building your car let me know ill sell u my whole car for 18,500 and it has everything you can dream of!



a special on h-t
Street Power Kit(Eagle): Turbo/All Motor
- For the budget turbo build. Used in daily driven and competition race cars. Proven in many setups 300-600hp.
- Arias Piston sets are complete with pistons, rings, locks and wrist pins.
- Eagle Connecting Rods with 3/8 ARP rod bolts.
- Darton MID Sleeve Kit
- Retail $1600.00 - $1700
Kit price $1280.00 for D-series

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread/1570358

Vteckidd
01-12-2007, 02:06 PM
If you build the car yourself there is noway it will cost anywhere near 15k. I am assuming you have the motor already and dont need too buy them.

YOu can price everything out
GE sleeves are 750.00 plus shipping 100.00 thru www.camp1320.com (http://www.camp1320.com)
Pistons range 450-500 Cp but you can get Je for like 300
Eagle Rods are 280.00
Headgasket 90.00
ARP headstuds 100.00
Oil pump@ water pump 160.00
timing belt 50.00
That bottom ENd 1890

Ok now the head
Supertech Valves,springs @ retainers 550.00
Labor installing them going 1mm over 400
Intake manifold 280.00
total 1230

Now as far as the turbo kit it just depends on how crazy you wanna go,
Usally we can pieces a whole turbo kit toghter for 2500-3000 that includes hondata,it just really depends how crazy you wanna go with that.

Not all head need to be port and polished, altough i dont know much about D series i know B series will hold out just fine. And if you look at the full race car, the built motor that did 460 blew up the night before the race and they installed a stock motor, so when he was on pinks that was on a stock D series motor, not the built one!

And if you feel like spending 15k building your car let me know ill sell u my whole car for 18,500 and it has everything you can dream of!


1) if he doesnt know what a FMIC is, then i highly doubt hes capable of building this kind of motor

2) YOur pricing is kind of off
GE sleeves are 750.00 plus shipping 100.00 thru
thats without machine work, if you plan on not honing, boring, balancing thats stupid. budget $500 for GOOD machine work.

Pistons range 450-500 Cp but you can get Je for like 300
JEs are $300 WITHOUT RINGS

Eagle Rods are 280.00
thats about right if you have a hook up

Headgasket 90.00
right

ARP headstuds 100.00
right

Oil pump@ water pump 160.00
right

timing belt 50.00
right

You forgot bearings, lower gasket kit, water pump, tensioner, clutch unless you build motors reusing that kind of stuff

Turbo kit wise, you MIGHT be able to scrape by, but i doubt it dont you guys run $1200-1300 full race manifolds?

lets see for a 400whp D series you would need:
Tubular manifold of some sort ours run $850, others 650-1200
3in Downpipe $150-250
Wastegate $210
BOV of a name brand sort $200
RC injectors $360 for plug an play, $300 for resisitor box
FMIC $200
Piping $300 with GOOD tbolts, clamps and couplers
Crome PRO with ECU $180 or Hondata S300 $600 +ECU ($180)
Oil lines an fittings $150

That assumes you can tap an weld an oil pan, and do all the fabrication yourself.

your estimate doesnt have headwork which you have to have to make over 350whp, valvesprings, retainers, vavle job, valves, camshaft, intake manifold, etc.

Also, this guy was asking abuot STROKER kits, Custom cam, custom everything, and thats more money which you didnt address. Halfwit spent around $7000 for a built BLOCK, vtec head, new OEM parts, MSPi turbo kit with TDF manifold and on low boost he got 285whp out of it with a STOCK HEAD. We are getting springs, ret, cam for it in the next week or so, and we should be able to see around 350whp on race gas with it.

you see my point. sometimes its best not to cheap out.

Vteckidd
01-12-2007, 02:08 PM
Street Power Kit(Eagle): Turbo/All Motor
- For the budget turbo build. Used in daily driven and competition race cars. Proven in many setups 300-600hp.
- Arias Piston sets are complete with pistons, rings, locks and wrist pins.
- Eagle Connecting Rods with 3/8 ARP rod bolts.
- Darton MID Sleeve Kit
- Retail $1600.00 - $1700
Kit price $1280.00 for D-series

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread/1570358

thats uninstalled. I just paid $650 to have sleeves put into a B motor, and that still doesnt have bearings, or any oem parts, head studs etc.

bet on $3000 once its all said an done

B18c1Turboed
01-12-2007, 02:24 PM
thats uninstalled. I just paid $650 to have sleeves put into a B motor, and that still doesnt have bearings, or any oem parts, head studs etc.

bet on $3000 once its all said an done

I guess this is where we have to agree to disagree, because I know that it don’t take no where near the amount you have stated, but you are a shop so you have too included labor prices.

The Machine shop we use for hone, boring, and decking are blocks charge us like 120.00 I think it was, as far as balance the crank I had Laskey racing do mine and I want to say I paid 250. I can’t recall that.

Of course when using a shop you will pay more, because you have too included labor. So 15k to build and install isn’t that bad I think. But just in parts I would say to build a 400whp car it would be roughly about 8k. And that’s doing it right!!



And you cant compare are manifold to what he is trying to do, or put toghter because we go for higher HP so of course we will always pay more than others!



If you want my suggestion I would go B series, theirs a lot of people building 600hp cars on stock sleeves. For the same amount you are going to build a 400hp D series you can have a B series with a lot more HP. And parts for B series are a lot cheaper too, because they so easy to find!

Vteckidd
01-12-2007, 03:08 PM
I guess this is where we have to agree to disagree, because I know that it don’t take no where near the amount you have stated, but you are a shop so you have too included labor prices.

The Machine shop we use for hone, boring, and decking are blocks charge us like 120.00 I think it was, as far as balance the crank I had Laskey racing do mine and I want to say I paid 250. I can’t recall that.

Of course when using a shop you will pay more, because you have too included labor. So 15k to build and install isn’t that bad I think. But just in parts I would say to build a 400whp car it would be roughly about 8k. And that’s doing it right!!



And you cant compare are manifold to what he is trying to do, or put toghter because we go for higher HP so of course we will always pay more than others!



If you want my suggestion I would go B series, theirs a lot of people building 600hp cars on stock sleeves. For the same amount you are going to build a 400hp D series you can have a B series with a lot more HP. And parts for B series are a lot cheaper too, because they so easy to find!


your right machine shops are different in prices. i had some quote $250, some $500 to COMPLETELY machine a motor.

the guy we use now is prob the best in the state and he aint cheap but ive had great success with him so ....

i agree, B>D in terms of that kind of power

miro_gt
01-12-2007, 06:47 PM
the full-race pinks car was build cheap, with most of the parts donated or obtained for free .. The idea was that they would have a car that they could loose if it came down to it ... It did make around 460WHP as I remember. The whole story is on their website.

but I don't see why you think that the stock sleeves are not strong .. Retard the timing appropriately, and those are gonna be just fine

Vteckidd
01-13-2007, 12:16 AM
the full-race pinks car was build cheap, with most of the parts donated or obtained for free .. The idea was that they would have a car that they could loose if it came down to it ... It did make around 460WHP as I remember. The whole story is on their website.

but I don't see why you think that the stock sleeves are not strong .. Retard the timing appropriately, and those are gonna be just fine
cheap for a multi million dollar company doesn not mean CHEAP for US.

for anyone else to duplicate that car, $10-15K EASY. if not more. FROM A SHOP.

Just because one dyno shows someone running 30psi, doesnt mean i would trust a sleeve all the time at that boost level.

hell B SERIES SLEEVES which are THICKER cant hold that kind of power on stock, they crack seen it happen.

we lost a D series motor at 18psi on pump, sleeve broke.

until you have tried it or done it, dont believe everything you have read or seen.

SoLJames95
01-13-2007, 12:29 AM
You tell them Mike!!! Show them whos penis is bigger.Miro I know you and your home Dseries build is with the greddy setup. Your making like 164, I heard its alright. I got some bulgarian personal that says your setup is almost as cheap as your hot wheel rims.:lmfao:

kain86
01-13-2007, 04:24 AM
first off you guys are making me out to be some kind of back woods retard that doesnt know anything about motors....yes im not to turbo knowledgable but i can build you one hell of an all motor 350ci chevy........600whp made out of 4500 yeah i know bigger displacement but larger engines aren't always the best. i bought my car for $1200 and it smokes more than me in a month i need new rings because i already changed my valve seals like the mechanic i bought it from said it would be... i could pull the engine apart but what good would that do me when im just going to do it all over again what i put forge internals. and as for me not knowing what a FMIC was... MY BAD! I also know it's going to cost me out the ass for whichever build i decide to do... but i was planning on trying to do all the work myself. and all the custom internals that i was going to have made where going to be made by a local shop that my friend works for so he was personally going to make all my parts. only thingf i had to do was find a cam and head stuff..... to think this started out as a project car now it's going to be a serious build to prove the people that say i can or am not going to be able to do it...... not bad for one of my first threads to have so many people fighting over whats right and wrong.....everyone has a different way of doing things and if someone says its not right for them doesnt mean its not right for someone else..
and like i said i have "D15B7" that i wanted 300whp out of does anyone have any suggestions on what i should do to make that and what kind of turbo setup i should use....

kain86
01-13-2007, 04:25 AM
AND IM STILL LOOKING FOR A COMPLETE B18A/B SWAP FOR CHEAP....
SO I CAN BUILD BOTH IN MY SPARE TIME...

Vteckidd
01-13-2007, 10:14 AM
no one is being a dick or making fun of you, but its obvious you needed help.

you list custom stroker kit when its not needed, custom this, custom that, that costs BIG MONEY.

just cause you can build a domestic motor doesnt mean shit for an import.

no one was dogging on you, but if you dont know what a FMIC is, or if you have to ask WHAT it takes to make that kind of power, you cant do it yourself.

do al ittle research and you can find what your looking for

Vteckidd
01-13-2007, 10:16 AM
i said i have "D15B7" that i wanted 300whp out of does anyone have any suggestions on what i should do to make that and what kind of turbo setup i should use..

ask your friend who will be making all your CUSTOM cranks an pistons, he should know what you need :crazy:

kain86
01-13-2007, 11:37 AM
he doesn't like hondas he like crappy hundai.......he has a 99 tiburon i think..

kain86
01-13-2007, 01:06 PM
OK im going for even less now.....250-300whp
where can i get cheap "d15b7" forged rods
and some cp or srp pistons and rings... im going to start slow and build from there cause i can't do much with crappy rods and bad piston rings... and also it would help if i listed the things i already have right....

65mm prelude throttle body
obx intake manifold
ebay 4-2-1 exhaust headers
painted valve color :lmfao:
H22a injectors
H22a fuel rail
gutted catalytic converter
AEM short ram intake
Fel-pro OEM valve stem seals lol.....

that's it so far....but the guy i bought the intake mani from cracked it after i gave him the money:idb: ....so it's kinda JB Welded together...
imgoing to post up a pic of my motor already.... i think it's ok LOOKING....

miro_gt
01-14-2007, 12:56 AM
You tell them Mike!!! Show them whos penis is bigger.Miro I know you and your home Dseries build is with the greddy setup. Your making like 164, I heard its alright. I got some bulgarian personal that says your setup is almost as cheap as your hot wheel rims.:lmfao:

The car made 163WHP at 8psi falling to 7 in high RPM, with the stock cat on :) Shortly after, the boost went up to 9psi and the cat got gutted, and it stayed like that for one year(30K miles).... It ran very nice, and that's with the stock injectors, where it was probably making ~170WHP

but today (well yesterday, it's like 1:45am), after some tunning by me, the boost went up to 11psi, and the timing went up with 2 degrees. And it's gonna get to 12psi tomorrow :) When I find time, I'll put it on the dyno where I'll max it out at around 1 bar :D .. but I may install new MAP sensor for that.

and BTW, other than the GReddy kit, I don't have cheap stuff on my car :D

so who's your bulgarian personal ??

Vteckidd
01-14-2007, 10:43 AM
If thats an OBX manifold, them i wonder when they started making stock honda manifolds LOL.

an since when did preludes come with 65mm throttle bodies? only honda that came with bigger than a 60 was the Integra Type-R which was a 62mm TB. never heard of a FACTORY HONDA 65mm sorry.

H22a injectors=290cc but on a stock d series makes no difference
H22a FUEL rail=same as a D series, so pointless mod

only realy mod i see is an intake and a header. thats it, all the rest is either stock or a mod that made no power.

listen man people arent going to give you all the answers everytime you change your mind. since you have joined you have made 3 threads that consist of:

1) HOw to build a 700whp B series
2) how to build a 400whp D serie
3) how to build a 250-300whp D series


see what im saying, seems you keep chaning your mind every day because you dont know what you want.

biggest waste of time is answered questions that didnt need to be asked. find out what YOU want to do FIRST, what your REALISTIC BUDGET IS, an go from there.

if you only have $3000 then ovbiously a GSR swap and a turbo kit aint happeneing.

Vteckidd
01-14-2007, 10:44 AM
and like everyone has said, DONT BUILD the d15. they have much weaker cranks than the 1.6l motor.

just pick up a 1.6L block

kain86
01-14-2007, 10:55 AM
the intake mani isn't the obx cause the guy cracked it, and i had the throttle body bored and wheni got it back i use my engine hone to smooth it more then polished it...
and the only reason i put the injectors and fuel rail on is cause i got a hol of some bad gas and it messed up my old ones and my friend had that pair lying around so he gave them to me.the only reason i keep changing my mind is chause everyone is telling me eaither its going to cost an arm and a leg or it's impossible........so i keep trying to find something more reasonable.

Vteckidd
01-14-2007, 10:58 AM
THE WHAT IS YOUR BUDGET???

YOU have to be reasonable for US to be reasonable. you come on here asking about custom stroker kits, 700whp, you think it was gonna cost $1000?

kain86
01-14-2007, 11:53 AM
im going to do it in pieces and my total budget will probably be about 8-10k...

miro_gt
01-14-2007, 01:06 PM
im going to do it in pieces and my total budget will probably be about 8-10k...

you can build a fast Honda with that much :D

SoLJames95
01-14-2007, 07:39 PM
Miguel and Joe Brutto, they said they had rode with you in it. Joe was fucking around with you.

miro_gt
01-14-2007, 07:47 PM
Miguel and Joe Brutto, they said they had rode with you in it. Joe was fucking around with you.

ahahaha, I had a boost leak that day, so what they felt was just like 7psi :D

Halfwit
01-15-2007, 08:19 AM
im going to do it in pieces and my total budget will probably be about 8-10k...
GSR TURBO.

Halfwit
01-15-2007, 08:20 AM
GSR TURBO.
do a stock swap, stack more money, then do the turbo kit, drive on tha tfor a while, then go back for pistons/ rods..maybe cam ect.

99SI
01-15-2007, 09:56 AM
If I had eight to ten thousand to work with I would do a K20A, good header (hytech,TDF,RMF), Skunk2 or IPS cams/valvetrain, KPRO

Halfwit
01-16-2007, 08:27 AM
If I had eight to ten thousand to work with I would do a K20A, good header (hytech,TDF,RMF), Skunk2 or IPS cams/valvetrain, KPRO
better potential i nthe long run, but i went with gsr turbo because all his threads have been about turbo and LARGE HP NUMBERS...

kain86
01-16-2007, 11:06 AM
well im having to pull my d15b7 apart because it took a shit....... no warning....it just started to die then a loud knocking that sounded like it was coming from the head......not sure yet....still pulling it apart...

99SI
01-16-2007, 12:04 PM
Those tail lights are sick. Where did you get those from. Put up a link if you don't mind. :thumbup:

Vteckidd
01-16-2007, 12:24 PM
i like the wheels personally

kain86
01-16-2007, 12:34 PM
the tail lights are matrix type r bullseye carbon fiber lights i had a hook up at a local stereo shop and i paid $140.....i need a motor................................the wheels are the stock 13" steelies :goodjob: